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1996-06-02 16:41Aaron MichelsonI picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions are fairly good, but at ti

From:: Aaron Michelson <amichel@io.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 12:41:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: (idm) Squarepusher plays...

I picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions are fairly good, but at times, the sound is a bit self-indulgent on Jenkinson's part. 'Deep Fried Pizza' starts off really well, with all that frantic drumming and twangy bass...probably one of the best intros, but it fails to really turn into anything...not that's it's a BAD track, that's just not true...it just doesn't have the magic of, well, the DJ Food remix. I also picked up a copy of Tom Jenkinson's "Bubble and Squeak" and I think at the moment I prefer this over the rephlex 12". I hope the rephlex album out this Monday is more polished than the 12". The man has so much potential, and is spoiling it over rushed tracks. It seems that the Worm Interface material is very drum'n bass, and the rephlex stuff (at least the 12") is more drummin' p-funk...wonder what his Warp material is going to sound like? Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

1996-06-02 17:40GDAaron Michelson wrote: > > I picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions

From:: GD <gd@interramp.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:40:22 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) Squarepusher plays...

Aaron Michelson wrote:

quoted 8 lines I picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions are

> > I picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions are > fairly good, but at times, the sound is a bit self-indulgent on > Jenkinson's part. 'Deep Fried Pizza' starts off really well, with all > that frantic drumming and twangy bass...probably one of the best intros, > but it fails to really turn into anything...not that's it's a BAD track, > that's just not true...it just doesn't have the magic of, well, the DJ > Food remix.

The 'Deep Fried Pizza' track to me sounded a bit like Return to Forever crossed with the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Now 'Theme from Goodbye Renaldo' I'm totally enthralled with - the melody/chord bit is beautiful, and the slow trip-hoppish beats with those flanged snares really adds to the feel of the tune. I'm not sure I'm crazy about the 'Shaft theme'-style wahka- wahka beginning though...

quoted 2 lines The man has

> The man has > so much potential, and is spoiling it over rushed tracks.

I'd have to agree with this somewhat - a lot of his tracks demonstrate his skill but don't really have anything going in terms of development. It seems like he could spend a bit more time making a track flow - many of his tunes segue from section to section with a crossfade but don't really integrate too well. Luke Vibert, on the other hand, really makes stuff click and can get a track to build up nicely and then switch into something different without interrupting the continuity of the track. Not that Mr. Jenkinson isn't putting out quality material; just a bit more polish and the tunes could go from excellent to masterpiece. That said, I'm still really looking forward to the full-length on Rephlex... GD

1996-06-02 20:29Aaron MichelsonOn Sun, 2 Jun 1996, GD wrote: > Not that Mr. Jenkinson isn't putting out quality material;

From:: Aaron Michelson <amichel@io.org>
To:: GD <gd@interramp.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:29:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Squarepusher plays...
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Squarepusher plays...

On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, GD wrote:

quoted 3 lines Not that Mr. Jenkinson isn't putting out quality material; just a bit more

> Not that Mr. Jenkinson isn't putting out quality material; just a bit more > polish and the tunes could go from excellent to masterpiece. That said, > I'm still really looking forward to the full-length on Rephlex...

Definitely. The Rephlex 12" leaves me wanting more...I think that an album full of wonky breaks and improv bass (Jenkinson as the Laswell of techno?) has some serious potential, and is only justified by this release. Now Bubble and Squeak on the other hand...it's not as original and brave as the rephlex release, but works better as a 12". Some amazing breaks and drum'n bass ethic. Wonderfully giddy two tracker. Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

1996-06-02 19:14CiMAt 12:41 02/06/96 -0400, Aaron Michelson wrote: > >wonder what his Warp material is going

From:: CiM <s.walley@uea.ac.uk>
To:: Aaron Michelson <amichel@io.org>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:14:19 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Squarepusher plays...

At 12:41 02/06/96 -0400, Aaron Michelson wrote:

quoted 2 lines wonder what his Warp material is going to sound like?

> >wonder what his Warp material is going to sound like?

_Port Rhombus_ (the track from the WAP74 12" of the same name) is a spikey, less 'feel good' factor track (than say _SqPsher Theme_) - moody guitar strums and melancholy jazz chords. Very good stuff and very much a finished track. Me like. _Problem Child_ is a beaty workout, cut-up Squarepusher style. I think one of his loops is a mangled human beat-box sample too. Nice mad stuff. _Significant Others_ is an echoey fractured thing. Interesting but like _Problem Child_, more a track to be intrigued by than to love. A good 12" then but the Rephlex one just has the edge I think - mainly because the chords in _Theme from Goodbye Renaldo_ remind me of Carl Craigs _Evolution_. OnNow: Some Surgeon track, courtesy of a Steady J mixtape || [CiM] || s.walley@uea.ac.uk || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/

1996-06-03 20:14rephlex>I picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions are >fairly good, but at

From:: rephlex <rephlex@popmail.dircon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:14:49 +0100
Subject:: (idm) Re: idm V1 #531

quoted 3 lines I picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions are

>I picked up this tasty treat yesterday...my immediate reactions are >fairly good, but at times, the sound is a bit self-indulgent on >Jenkinson's part.

I don't think there is anything 'wrong' with self-indulgence. It helps artists and music progress and provides a kind of extremity. No? Loads of people are self-indulgent, every musician that doesn't make music for money is. Even if they do it for cash, I s'pose they still are in a different way. 'Deep Fried Pizza' starts off really well, with all

quoted 4 lines that frantic drumming and twangy bass...probably one of the best intros,

>that frantic drumming and twangy bass...probably one of the best intros, >but it fails to really turn into anything...not that's it's a BAD track, >that's just not true...it just doesn't have the magic of, well, the DJ >Food remix.

(As usual) Listen again and digest more. let this track become a well known friend. (Didn't you smile when that straight techno hihat appeared?) AND WHAT ABOUT THE ONE BEFORE!!!

quoted 2 lines I also picked up a copy of Tom Jenkinson's "Bubble and Squeak" and I

>I also picked up a copy of Tom Jenkinson's "Bubble and Squeak" and I >think at the moment I prefer this over the rephlex 12".

Fair enuf. I hope the

quoted 2 lines rephlex album out this Monday is more polished than the 12". The man has

>rephlex album out this Monday is more polished than the 12". The man has >so much potential, and is spoiling it over rushed tracks.

I disagree. One thing about Tom, he doesn't rush tracks ever. They are exactly as he wants them - down to the last 16th. I don't reckon the album is at all more polished, just more varied. It seems that

quoted 3 lines the Worm Interface material is very drum'n bass, and the rephlex stuff

>the Worm Interface material is very drum'n bass, and the rephlex stuff >(at least the 12") is more drummin' p-funk...wonder what his Warp >material is going to sound like?

Well, I am a funkster at heart and I like to explore his jazzier side when allowed (especially on this EP). His WARP stuff will be tuf - have you heard P. Rhombus - BLIMEY!

1996-06-03 21:16Aaron MichelsonOn Mon, 3 Jun 1996, rephlex wrote: > (As usual) Listen again and digest more. let this tra

From:: Aaron Michelson <amichel@io.org>
To:: rephlex <rephlex@popmail.dircon.co.uk>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:16:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Squarepusher plays...
Reply to:: (idm) Re: idm V1 #531

On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, rephlex wrote:

quoted 3 lines (As usual) Listen again and digest more. let this track become a well known

> (As usual) Listen again and digest more. let this track become a well known > friend. (Didn't you smile when that straight techno hihat appeared?) AND > WHAT ABOUT THE ONE BEFORE!!!

I absolutely agree that the 12" is extremely fresh, inventive...at times, quite amazing. It just doesn't quite flow as nicely as I'd like.

quoted 3 lines I disagree. One thing about Tom, he doesn't rush tracks ever. They are

> I disagree. One thing about Tom, he doesn't rush tracks ever. They are > exactly as he wants them - down to the last 16th. I don't reckon the album > is at all more polished, just more varied.

Well, you'd know better than I. I really like my tracks though, and not just snips and samples of amazing concepts. I like things to flow...

quoted 3 lines Well, I am a funkster at heart and I like to explore his jazzier side when

> Well, I am a funkster at heart and I like to explore his jazzier side when > allowed (especially on this EP). His WARP stuff will be tuf - have you heard > P. Rhombus - BLIMEY!

You're getting me wet just thinking about it. Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

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