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1996-05-16 23:32Sugatis & Co> I can't detect much similarity between the >mixes (except for the obvious Aphex sound, a

From:: Sugatis & Co <sugatis@inreach.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 16 May 1996 16:32:59 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug

quoted 3 lines I can't detect much similarity between the

> I can't detect much similarity between the >mixes (except for the obvious Aphex sound, and maybe a beat here and >there)

Nor can I. I think that most of these tracks are original or at least 99% original, (except for the one that obviously sounds like a remix, #6 or 7 I think) which makes Ventolin an album in its own right, well, almost. As an album, it works better than most of the other Aphex stuff, for some reason. To all of you mad about the tracks cut from the Plug disc... How long is this CDS? I'll bet anything that the two tracks were cut (never liked the third mix of cheesy anyway) in order to squeeze the thing to under 40 minutes... B O Y C O T T S H E L L O I L http://home.inreach.com/sugatis/index.html

1996-05-17 05:49einexile the meekOn Thu, 16 May 1996, Sugatis & Co wrote: > > I can't detect much similarity between the >

From:: einexile the meek <einexile@netcom.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 16 May 1996 22:49:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug

On Thu, 16 May 1996, Sugatis & Co wrote:

quoted 6 lines I can't detect much similarity between the

> > I can't detect much similarity between the > >mixes (except for the obvious Aphex sound, and maybe a beat here and > >there) > > Nor can I. I think that most of these tracks are original or at least 99% > original,

Reminds me, did it take anyone here longer than two years to realize that 28 Mix is a version of D-Scape? All that time I was wondering where the hell did this monster come from...cripes...my fave afx track, too. :p I'm curious to know what people on this list think of that new Seefeel spinoff Scala. Raves over at ambient and 4ad-l (or maybe just 4ad-l) but something rubs me the wrong way, the way it is described. Thanks to everyone who wrote/posted with drum 'n' bass tutelage...I am in your debt. O yeah, but I was wondering what *LFO* release I should pick up next. Guess it doesn't matter. Will pick something up at random. * May 16th, 1996 - Einexile's Light Becomes Part of the Earth *

1996-05-16 23:33Fresh/Gonzi Merchan>How long is this CDS? I'll bet anything that the two tracks were >cut (never liked the th

From:: Fresh/Gonzi Merchan <GMerchan@gnn.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 16 May 1996 23:33:20
Subject:: Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug

quoted 3 lines How long is this CDS? I'll bet anything that the two tracks were

>How long is this CDS? I'll bet anything that the two tracks were >cut (never liked the third mix of cheesy anyway) in order to >squeeze the thing to under 40 minutes...

Fuck, so the CD has less music than the new 2x12'? Someone please confirm this.... /""'' /"'RESH Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA

1996-05-17 09:34Mr. P. Kulawec> > > >How long is this CDS? I'll bet anything that the two tracks were > >cut (never like

From:: Mr. P. Kulawec <P.Kulawec@liverpool.ac.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 17 May 1996 10:34:52 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Regarding Plug re-issue...
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug

quoted 9 lines How long is this CDS? I'll bet anything that the two tracks were

> > > >How long is this CDS? I'll bet anything that the two tracks were > >cut (never liked the third mix of cheesy anyway) in order to > >squeeze the thing to under 40 minutes... > > Fuck, so the CD has less music than the new 2x12'? Someone please > confirm this.... >

To clarify. The CD single lists all the original tracks but omits 6:07 from Plug 1 and Cheesy Pic'n mix from Plug 2. It is 42 minutes long which, I believe, means it is not a proper single in the UK (it's actually sold for a few pounds more too). The double 12" does *not* list the above two omitted tracks so, in all probability, is the same as the CD. peter

1996-05-17 15:21Chris.Hilker>The CD single lists all the original tracks but omits 6:07 from Plug 1 >and Cheesy Pic'n

From:: Chris.Hilker <cspot@hyperreal.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 17 May 1996 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Regarding Plug re-issue...
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Regarding Plug re-issue...

quoted 3 lines The CD single lists all the original tracks but omits 6:07 from Plug 1

>The CD single lists all the original tracks but omits 6:07 from Plug 1 >and Cheesy Pic'n mix from Plug 2. It is 42 minutes long which, I believe, >means it is not a proper single in the UK

It wouldn't be anyway, as it has versions of more than one song. The 40-minute limit applies only to singles with versions of one song - the limit for those with more than one is 25 minutes. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker)

1996-05-17 15:05Ren8sance@aol.com>Reminds me, did it take anyone here longer than two years to realize >that 28 Mix is a ve

From:: <Ren8sance@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 17 May 1996 11:05:28 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug

quoted 1 line Reminds me, did it take anyone here longer than two years to realize >that

>Reminds me, did it take anyone here longer than two years to realize >that

28 Mix is a version of D-Scape? I never thought that the 28 mix was a version of Dscape. I always thought that it was one of the tracks that RDJ cut from the SAW2 full-length. I read somewhere that he had to cut about 6 tracks from what he really wanted to release, like it was going to be a 3 disc set or something. This one was slated to be #28. D-Scape was probably one of those as well. I could be totally wrong, though. : ) Andrew

1996-05-20 09:29R D WigglesworthRen8sance@aol.com wrote: >Reminds me, did it take anyone here longer than two years to rea

From:: R D Wigglesworth <R.Wigglesworth@sheffield.ac.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 20 May 1996 10:29:55 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug

Ren8sance@aol.com wrote:

quoted 1 line Reminds me, did it take anyone here longer than two years to realize >that

>Reminds me, did it take anyone here longer than two years to realize >that

28 Mix is a version of D-Scape? I never thought that the 28 mix was a version of Dscape. I always thought that it was one of the tracks that RDJ cut from the SAW2 full-length. I read somewhere that he had to cut about 6 tracks from what he really wanted to release, like it was going to be a 3 disc set or something. This one was slated to be #28. D-Scape was probably one of those as well. I could be totally wrong, though. : ) Andrew

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D-Scape sounds to me like it was an earlier recording, from the SAWI period. The second track on the first EP was a precursor to ventolin, I guess. Listening to SAWII, I realise that there are a couple of tracks that are very close indeed to 'acrid avid jamshred' on this album. He developed these ever so slightly, and came up with the Mo'waxy 'acrid avid jamshred'. richard

Re: (idm) Ventolin question, with an aside about Plug