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While the flamethrower's out, I'd like to point out how "Antacid" is utterly ruined by that damn 303 SAMPLE. I'm sorry, but the sound of the filters on Messrs. Pritchard & Middleton's sampler opening and closing is a poor substitute for a real 303. To think, this could have been one of the all time great acid tracks. Instead, I'm already getting tired of it because it doesn't have that...SQELCH. chill

First off, let me say I have not heard "Antacid" so I make no comment on that particular track. However... It occurs to me that the very title "Antacid" may be telling. So is acid something that cannot be done without a 303? Or is the 303 merely the fave instrument for making acid tracks? I dig a lot of acid music (mostly UR's acid though), but even assuming they use a 303 the sound to me was never so much about the -303- as much as that bubbling, squeaking, etc., sweeping filters, tweaking, and obtuse lines. Obviously the 303 is extremely well-suited to this, but other instruments can generate this stuff as well, albeit not exactly as the 303 does. Someone even said the true workhorse of Detriot is the Prophet 5 I think. On Sat, 6 May 1995, Che wrote:

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> While the flamethrower's out, I'd like to point out how "Antacid" is > utterly ruined by that damn 303 SAMPLE. I'm sorry, but the sound of the > filters on Messrs. Pritchard & Middleton's sampler opening and closing is > a poor substitute for a real 303. > > To think, this could have been one of the all time great acid tracks. > Instead, I'm already getting tired of it because it doesn't have > that...SQELCH.

Well I took another listen to the Antacid EP to see what all the fuss is about. I listened through it to see if I could tell if there were 303 things going on that a sampler couldn't do and I did. I own and operate a 303 so my experience is first hand for those who care to flame... First off there are resonance changes on the 303 in the Antacid track which a sampler couldn't do in the same manner as a 303. Secondly there is a second instrument that is playing the 303 pattern on top of the 303 sound. The glide is EXACTLY the same on this pattern as the 303 and no other sequencer on the planet can come close to the 303 sequencer, so I'm inclined to believe that this second instrument is being CV'd by the 303 at the same time. Again, a sampler could not do this. My vote is that it is a real 303. I don't know what the big deal was if it wasn't anyway because it still is a fine record regardless. I do agree hawever that the 303 pattern isn't a terribly exciting one and it's use isn't extraordinary. Mad Mike (from UR) was mentioned but you have to realize that he can program the 303 and 909 like no other. He's a true guru. I think the only person that can come close is Dan Curtin. (check out Apogee on Peacefrog/Metamorphic if you have any doubts) And of course the godfather of acid is Armando. (check out Land of Confusion or World Unknown if you have any doubts) And to answer the question about acid having to be a 303? Well the answer is YES!!! 303 = acid and acid = 303. That's just the way it is. PERIOD. End of story. All acid heads know that there is no replacement for the TransistorBass. Cult? Religion? Well who knows, but when ya got the bug... -robert ______________________________________________*AudioElectronic*_____ "UFO: Starting with the MG Frequency knob at 0, sonic explorers \ as you turn up the knob, \ the UFO will sound like it is taking off." -> MS-20 manual ____\