Sorry if this comes through twice on IDM and AMB lists, i noticed
the original post used .com instead of .org for those lists and
i wasn't sure if the post would get through.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:00:30 -0600 (CST)
From: phonaut <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: IDM Mailing List <idm@hyperreal.com>,
Ambient Mailing List <ambient@hyperreal.com>,
Whitezone Mailing List <whitezone-l@lists.sonic.net>,
+49-69/450464 <faxlist@2350.org>, Eye Heart Atom <mother@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: whitezone-l ENTIRE FAX collection for sale (eBay) ++
That looks like it might be "groover" aka Don Weir.
His homepage is at:
http://members.xoom.com/beatz2000/
Haven't seen him around for quite some time, but a few years
ago he built up quite the infamous repuatation. Bootlegging
Fax CDs was only one accusation levelled at the time. Check
the archives from the first 3 months of 1996 for more info.
To be fair, several people came forward defending Don, and I
must admit to having 2 successful single-disc trades with him
back then. One deal involved a Fax disc and it was genuine.
But i would be skeptical about doing a multi-thousand
dollar deal with him involving "complete sets" of discs.
Maybe he's turned a new leaf, maybe he never needed to,
maybe he's trustworthy, and maybe not.
All i'm saying here is Procede With Caution.
Apologies for posting to all relavent lists.
Below are a couple posts from the ambient archives to fill you in.
n.
"I grew up between nature... between trees and flowers
and birds and butterflies and dogs and cats and horses
and the beautiful blue sky..." -the naturalist
. . . . . . ..... . . . . . .
Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage:
http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin
Music Trading Page:
http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin/trade.htm
fax/ri reviews:
http://www.2350.org &
http://www.datacide.org
fax Galleria and info:
http://www.usatt.org/rseguine/FAX/
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 08:47:05 -0800
To: ambient@hyperreal.com
From: faxlabel@sirius.com (charles uzzell-edwards)
Subject: digital or analogue
what strikes me about the analogue / digital debate is that its like a
discussion about whether violins or pianos are better in the orchestra.
Both of them have superb qualities, and they can be used together to
create
some nice sounds; using one shouldn't exclude the other.
Here is the joke of the week about a little man we all love...
Don Weir goes up to Klaus Schulze in Australia and makes some sick right
wing nazi comments and then reputedly pulls out a knife when KS looks at
him with disgust .
Oops I'm sorry, that wasn't a joke : according to sources who were there,
this actually happened.
people who live in Glass houses shouldn't throw stones
f a x l a b e l u . s . a .
2 9 5 c h u r c h s t r e e t ,
s a n f r a n c i s c o .
c a l i f o r n i a 9 4 1 1 4 .
tel / fax 4 1 5 - 4 3 1 1 2 6 5 .
new site at :
http://www.sirius.com/~faxlabel/
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:27:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Andy Thomas <andy@hyperreal.com>
To: ambient@hyperreal.com
Subject: theambientlist
I have a brief announcement. Mike Brown has decided that he no longer
wishes to continue to co-run the list with me and has left me in charge.
He didn't give any explicit reasons, but I gather he's probably just sick
of dealing with all of the bullshit, quite understandable.
There no major changes planned, but efective immediately Don Weir is no
longer welcome on the ambient list and C.U.E has been invited back. If
anyone has a problem with that, tough. It had to happen.
Andy
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 17:57:49 -0500
To: AMBIENT@hyperreal.com
From: WILL-E <will@panix.com>
Subject: Re: This Don vs CUE business
apologies to everyone for continuuing this thread but I think some facts
need to come to light about all this...
"Eddie O'Hanlon, Ambient Mathematician" <EDWARD.OHANLON@UCG.IE> wrote:
quoted 2 lines Now I'm happy with the list other than this, but as I have been
>Now I'm happy with the list other than this, but as I have been
>recieving and reading everything do you think that what you did is the
best
quoted 1 line way to handle things ?
>way to handle things ?
You don't know half of what has been going on behind the ambient list and
as you say, if you've been reading everything, you must not have been here
from the very beginning or you haven't been following *that* closely.
It's been quite a confusing trip considering Mr. Weir has about 10
different email addresses he uses to get away with what he does.
quoted 2 lines I thought Mike had handled it already. (I'm sorry
>I thought Mike had handled it already. (I'm sorry
>Mike has gone - I recall him being a sound chap)
yeah I have respected Mike and have told him so for the way he was running
this list, even though he's been a little trigger happy with the
unsubscribe button lately, but removing Charlie was wrong and downright
too far.
quoted 1 line Because of this list I came into contact with Don Weir,
>Because of this list I came into contact with Don Weir,
well that's good for you, honestly - but he's been a psychopath to
everyone associated with the label. Have you been to Australia to meet
him?
Probably not but Klaus Schulze has and he claims that Don pulled a
knife on him and he was espousing some Nazi propoganda because Klaus is
from Germany. Yes I've exchanged some CDs with Don too until I found this
out second hand from Pete Namlook himself. Charlie was told not to sell
FAX CDs to Don and Don decided to start a personal war with many
frightening verbal attacks, accusations and sick jokes. I've seen the
evidence at Charlie's place of what Don has sent to him. I've met Charlie
and he is one very mellow nice guy. He's been unnecessarily put through
so much bullshit and pushed into an extreme all because of this one
relentless person. Nobody deserves this amount of abuse. It's not just
Charlie either but I won't name names.
quoted 2 lines He is responsible for the best part of my FAX collection, through
>He is responsible for the best part of my FAX collection, through
>dealings.
This is sad because he is only making profit from the label. Personally
I'm sick of him creating a new email account every month and posting a
forsale list non stop every week. Can't you see that he has nothing
intelligent in terms of conversation to contribute to this list? I won't
even get into how he was trying to sell bootlegs on this list. He is only
using this forum so he can make money from FAX and try to have the last
laugh. This is his way to hurt and get back at the label. I seriously
believe he has mental problems. One minute he's fine and the next he'll
start accusing you of stuff out of the blue. He doesn't make sense a lot
of the time and I've had to have people help me read some of his messages
because of how confusing he can be when he actually has something to say
aside from "for sale/trade". I would feel sorry for him but I believe he's
been asking for it. I'm surprised he's been around as long as he has and
I'm glad to see that a sense of justice has finally prevailed.
If you want to get hard to find FAX CDs, contact EAR/Rational in the USA
or DJ Criss at FAX (see the FAX home page) who have been working very hard
and coming up with a lot of stuff that Don Weir has only been dreaming of
getting.
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