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2000-01-25 20:10Arthur Purvis (idm) rap/noise
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2000-01-26 01:14James R McPherson Re: (idm) rap/noise
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2000-01-25 20:10Arthur PurvisWell, I think all the biggest names have been mentioned, but I'll run through them again i
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Well, I think all the biggest names have been mentioned, but I'll run through them again in what (I think) is the most important order... Dalek - Negro Nekro Necros (Gern Blandsten) _exactly_ what the original poster described. They are at heart a hiphop group, but you wouldn't know it from the ear bleeding levels of noise. Also one of the best live shows I've ever seen. New Kingdom - Paradise Don't Come Cheap (Gee Street) Someone mentioned Heavy Load, but this one is way way better (not that Heavy Load isn't a good album, but you get my point). The most musically interesting hiphop album I've ever heard maybe... produced by scotty hard (whose solo album that others have mentioned is OK but nothing compared to his new kingdom work) - this is what happens when a couple of black dudes who listen to Black Sabbath, Public Enemy, Foetus, Run DMC, Grand Funk Railroad, etc (the thank you lists on their records are really bizarre) make a hiphop record. Tremendous levels of distortion, psychedelic noise damage, kickass beats, almost no samples, brilliant rapping. Cannot recommend this record enough. Techno Animal - well, there aren't any techno animal tracks with rapping that I know of, but really, they can't be beat for head bludgeoning, noisy as fuck, angry instrumentals. The Demonoid 12", any Chrome 12"s (or Radio Hades which compiles most of them), and vs. reality are all good starts. Avoid Ghost unless you like grindy metal. Ice - Bad Blood (Morpheus) Hrmm... while a lot of this record is very good, the raps are best ignored because they're often not so good. The music is sort of like Techno Animal, but more of a slinky groove than a crushing one. Sensational - Loaded with Power and Corner the Market (Wordsound) Sensational is an interesting character... his beats are so messy and lo-fi they're often a little hard to take, and his rapping is, well let's just say it's pretty "out." Thus on each record there are one or two brilliant tracks ("thick marker" on loaded with power is my favorite), about half good tracks, and half throwaway. Always interesting at least. Spectre/Slotek/Ill St. Presents (wordsound) all of these records (the first two are artists, the 3rd a compilation series) are the same person... None of the records are very noisy, just very very dark and dubby, with vox on all except the first slotek record. My favorite is Spectre - "Second Coming" but I haven't listened to the new Spectre yet (just got it last week). Scorn - Logghi Barogghi, Gyral, and Ellipsis (Earache) Scorn's come up before, but as far as dark, dubby, and seriously tweaked hiphop goes, these records just cannot be beat. Especially Gyral and Logghi Barogghi (the former is full and hiphoppy, the latter stripped down and completely fucked up - if I had to pick I'd go with Logghi). The Scotty Hard record falls in with the rest of the Wordsound crew, but not really as good (unfortunately - had such high hopes for it) - most of the rapping is bad except the songs by Sebastien of New Kingdom. The first Prince Charming LP on Wordsound (Psychotropical Heatwave) is well fucked up and may deserve your attention - although it doesn't have quite the groove of the others, it is pretty noisy. His second album was disappointing though... There is also the Fever album on DHR which is a rap/noise record but unfortunately sorta sucks to my ears. As for other really angry music, someone mentioned ant-zen/hymen. This is where you want to be looking - buy the 2cd samplers from each label (ant-hology and teknoir - they can be had for the low price of $12.99 each from www.soleilmoon.com) and you will never look back... Ant-Zen is the home of the sheer aural brutality (PAL, Imminent Starvation - the latter of whom is fucking amazing despite the stupid name), Hymen the more "IDM" oriented material - while still noisy and dark, it's got a lot more going on musically so Teknoir may be the one to get first (unless you are prepared for the glorious walls of noise in 4/4 that is the Ant-Zen catalog). Also Panacea's first record is pretty essential (low profile darkness)... Also, don't be so quick to dismiss ATR and co. - well, ok, dismiss the ATR, just don't dismiss the co. Alec Empire's "The Destroyer" puts most other noisy dnb acts (including panacea) to shame when it comes to the sheer amount of violence done to the music, and most of his other records are pretty swell. I've been listening to Squeeze the Trigger a lot, and if you like squelchy acidy noises in a distorted/angry setting, it's great (though Techno Animal does do it a bit better on the "Demonoid" 12"). Some of the Vinyl Communication records fit the bill, though not Kid 606 and Lesser (great music, but too happy/goofy to be angry). The Bombardier record "violence" is good, as is the omnibot/kid 606 split... still, VC's strength is not necessarily in this area, as Bombardier could rightfully be accused of being a bit of a DHR ripoff. As a final mention there is the current techno obsession of my life, the Tresor label. While not "angry" per se, many of these records (I'm thinking Vogel, Surgeon, Chrislo, System 7, and robert hood) have a really interesting kind of fucked up power that is unequalled anywhere else. Pounding 4 to the floor is a beautiful thing. And as an aside, the only record I've heard on Tresor that I didn't like was the Drexicya one - I'll throw in a quick rec for Pacou's "No Computer Involved" LP which hasn't left the turntable much in the past week. Beepy but lots of depth, almost dubby in terms of the way the sounds are used if not in actual overall sound. --- the humble abbott arthur purvis set his hand hereto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-25 20:24Bill ConnollyOn Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Arthur Purvis wrote: > I'll throw in a quick rec for Pacou's "No Comp
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Arthur Purvis wrote:
quoted 4 lines I'll throw in a quick rec for Pacou's "No Computer Involved" LP which> I'll throw in a quick rec for Pacou's "No Computer Involved" LP which > hasn't left the turntable much in the past week. Beepy but lots of > depth, almost dubby in terms of the way the sounds are used if not in > actual overall sound.
Granted, "No Computer Involved" is a very good record, but Pacou's first album on Tresor "Symbolic Language" (Tresor 69, i think) is much better, IMHO. A much more pronounced dubbiness and traces of Mills-like pulse-minimalism (think growth/I9). Its definitely one of the best things I've ever heard on tresor...and I nearly decided to commit suicide when i lost my vinyl copy. well, no, not quite. but it's a damn good record... bc ____________________________ Bill Connolly The College of New Jersey Townhouse East 27A Ewing, NJ USA 08628 email: connoll3@tcnj.edu ICQ: 21696266 AOL IM: connollybill c_5:2: http://connolly.homestead.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-01-26 01:14James R McPhersonJust gotta double on this one: awesome album. And you can find it all over the place as a
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Just gotta double on this one: awesome album. And you can find it all over the place as a cutout (probably b/c the distortion ruins it on all but good/loud systems - the best way distortion can be used). Another one to look out for: Jungle Bros _J Beez Wit the Remedy_. Uneven and sloppy, but both in a very interesting way. Also a cut-out special. I would love to have heard the version before the cuts their label demanded ... no sampling of Slayer or anything that credible, but they do sample themselves ; ) J On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:10:34 -0500 (EST) Arthur Purvis <abpurvis@Princeton.EDU> writes:
quoted 18 lines New Kingdom - Paradise Don't Come Cheap (Gee Street)>New Kingdom - Paradise Don't Come Cheap (Gee Street) > Someone mentioned Heavy Load, but this one is way way better (not >that >Heavy Load isn't a good album, but you get my point). The most >musically >interesting hiphop album I've ever heard maybe... produced by scotty >hard >(whose solo album that others have mentioned is OK but nothing >compared to >his new kingdom work) - this is what happens when a couple of black >dudes >who listen to Black Sabbath, Public Enemy, Foetus, Run DMC, Grand Funk >Railroad, etc (the thank you lists on their records are really >bizarre) >make a hiphop record. Tremendous levels of distortion, psychedelic >noise >damage, kickass beats, almost no samples, brilliant rapping. Cannot >recommend this record enough.
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