179,854Messages
9,130Senders
30Years
342mboxes
Search · subject · body · from · to
Advanced search
reset

← archive index

Re: Rephlex reasoning*

5 messages · 5 participants · spans 4 days · search this subject
◇ merged from 2 subjects: rephlex postings · rephlex reasoning*
1995-07-20 02:18re: rephlex postings
└─ 1995-07-20 05:14Greg Earle Re: Rephlex postings
└─ 1995-07-20 17:29rbcIII the lovebot Re: Rephlex postings
├─ 1995-07-21 08:00Alan M. Parry Re: Rephlex postings
└─ 1995-07-23 21:19Steven T Lammers Re: Rephlex reasoning*
expand allcollapse allclick any summary to toggle that message
1995-07-20 02:18PHON2@aol.coma brief synopsis of rephlex postings from the last month or so, for those who've missed th
From:
To:
Date:
Wed, 19 Jul 1995 22:18:24 -0400
Subject:
re: rephlex postings
permalink · <950719221653_36523453@aol.com>
a brief synopsis of rephlex postings from the last month or so, for those who've missed them: i never said that!...there's no bad blood!...pathetic bored college students!...his music will kick your ass!...that's not electro!...i'm so damned bitter and angry!...hiss,spit... are they turning into the bad seed of the internet? phon2
1995-07-20 05:14Greg Earle> A brief synopsis of Rephlex postings from the last month or so, for those > who've misse
From:
Greg Earle
To:
Cc:
Date:
Wed, 19 Jul 1995 22:14:17 -0700
Subject:
Re: Rephlex postings
Reply to:
re: rephlex postings
permalink · <9507200514.AA25294@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>
quoted 6 lines A brief synopsis of Rephlex postings from the last month or so, for those> A brief synopsis of Rephlex postings from the last month or so, for those > who've missed them: > > I never said that! ... there's no bad blood! ... pathetic bored college > students! ... his music will kick your ass! ... that's not Electro! ... I'm > so damned bitter and angry! ... hiss, spit ...
As the poster of the "Bad blood?" message, I got a kick out of Grant (I assume it was Grant; no one ever signs these posts from RePHLeX) calling me a "pathetic bored college student". (Probably because I haven't seen the inside of a Uni classroom since 1978, which I reckon is about the time all those "Old School"-ers were still thinking about their O levels.) So ... Rule #1: Presumptuousness will get you nowhere. Rule #2: Don't condescend to the audience. There are plenty of people on the IDM list who Know Their Shit. We're not the Unwashed Heathens who need to be enlightened. ("I'm here to help you people") Please remember PLUR ... Rule #3: Always try and imagine how your postings are viewed from the outside looking in. Former Acen member(s?) release record on Clear. J. Random music-consuming Proletariat assumes, not unreasonably, that records released by Clear are done so with Clair's approval. 'Net posting from rephlex@dircon.CO.UK contains "DON'T BOTHER" in reference to said Clear recording. Post contains no words to the effect "Oh, btw, this is just my personal taste/opinion and should not be interpreted as The Official Voice Of RePHLeX Records". Now really ... Is it all that hard to fathom why J. Random Usenet Reader would wonder why An Official Post From Rephlex (remember, no disclaimers present) is apparently dissing on a Clear release? To the uninitiated, it Looks Bad. Now in reality, it may well be a case of Just Good Ol' Grant Expressing His Own Personal Taste In An Informal Manner, Irrespective Of The Label Of Origin. And that's fine. But if that's the case, mention it. Remember that posting from the "rephlex" address carries with it a certain extra interpretive weight. Let's put it this way: If I posted something stating that U.S. Senator Barbara Mikulski - senior Democratic Senator on the U.S. Senate subcommittee that oversees the NASA budget - was a "wrinkled old prune", it would probably look pretty bad coming from my work site at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory if I didn't disclaim it as just my own opinion. (JPL is a part of NASA.) (Well, even if I disclaimed it, it would look pretty bad! (-: ) Do you see my point? "idle gossip"? Hardly; more like downright surprise. And finally: Rule #4: On the 'Net, nobody knows you're a dog ... erm, big-time label honcho. We're all Bozos on this bus. - Greg
1995-07-20 17:29rbcIII the lovebotOn Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Greg Earle wrote: > So ... > > Rule #1: Presumptuousness will get you
From:
rbcIII the lovebot
To:
Intelligent Dance Music
Date:
Thu, 20 Jul 1995 10:29:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: Rephlex postings
Reply to:
Re: Rephlex postings
permalink · <Pine.SUN.3.91.950720101106.29107B-100000@crl.crl.com>
On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Greg Earle wrote:
quoted 3 lines So ...> So ... > > Rule #1: Presumptuousness will get you nowhere.
<snipped lots of good politically correct advice about net posts> The problem is Graham IS the voice of Rephlex because he runs the label. And the metaphor of NASA and JPL is good in the context you use it which is a politically run institution but Rephlex is a record label and probably couldn't give a shit about politics. They focus on music and good music at that, so publicly dissing Warp or releases on Clear is very typical and won't make a single damned difference as to how well the next Rephlex release will sell. As far as I'm concerned Graham could be demonically posessed and trying to control the universe through mind control but I don't give a damn as long as the next Rephlex release is good. I agree with Graham at times (in agreeing that Warp is getting a bit too commercial) and disagree other times (I liked Space Pimps quite a bit and find the "electro revival" rather fun). But all in all the Rephlex posts quite entertaining and that's the job of a company like a record label which is entertainment based. It's job is not to be PC. That's the job of NASA and other political and largely commercial corporations. I highly doubt if you went to a record store and picked up a Rephlex record and listened to it and it blew your mind that you'd stop and think, "Well, those posts by Rephlex on the net were pretty offensive so I'd better not buy this slammin' track." If you did then I think you're missing the point. Musicians and labels are VERY dedicated to what they do and if they aren't then they will be trompled over by those who are passionate about it. Music is the key and everything else is insignificant! -robert --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) "Thanks for the technical data. It sure is nice to read something useful for once, instead of all that noise about useless Roland x0x boxes." -metlay
1995-07-21 08:00Alan M. ParryOn Thu, 20 Jul 1995, rbcIII the lovebot wrote: > The problem is Graham IS the voice of Rep
From:
Alan M. Parry
To:
rbcIII the lovebot
Cc:
Intelligent Dance Music
Date:
Fri, 21 Jul 1995 01:00:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: Rephlex postings
Reply to:
Re: Rephlex postings
permalink · <Pine.BSI.3.91.950721005913.16316A@taz.hyperreal.com>
On Thu, 20 Jul 1995, rbcIII the lovebot wrote:
quoted 1 line The problem is Graham IS the voice of Rephlex because he runs the label.> The problem is Graham IS the voice of Rephlex because he runs the label.
You're referring to Grant of course.. :: Alan M. Parry :: fluid@hyperreal.com :: <finger me for PGP key> :: http://hyperreal.com/~fluid
1995-07-23 21:19Steven T LammersWords to live by--or so it seems :) > They focus on music and good music at that, so publi
From:
Steven T Lammers
To:
rbcIII the lovebot
Cc:
Steven T Lammers ,
Date:
Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:19:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:
Re: Rephlex reasoning*
Reply to:
Re: Rephlex postings
permalink · <9507232120.AA20674@pilot09.cl.msu.edu>
Words to live by--or so it seems :)
quoted 3 lines They focus on music and good music at that, so publicly dissing Warp or> They focus on music and good music at that, so publicly dissing Warp or > releases on Clear is very typical and won't make a single damned difference > as to how well the next Rephlex release will sell.
Exactly. They can do or say just about whatever they want at this point and it will not put a dent in their record sales, which is what's important here. People are buying the music for purposes of their own, and don't care about the politics. Though it seems a big part, all the words that Moby said in his last CD booklet did not affect the opinion that I had formed about the album from just the _music_. None of us get the priviledge to see all the fussing that goes in to making a record anyway. Let's leave that up to them.
quoted 3 lines As far as I'm concerned Graham could be demonically posessed and trying> As far as I'm concerned Graham could be demonically posessed and trying > to control the universe through mind control but I don't give a damn as > long as the next Rephlex release is good.
Well I hope that that's not the case for [Grant] but you're right about the music. The task of pleasing the masses can get tricky...
quoted 4 lines But all in all the Rephlex posts [are] quite entertaining and that's the job> But all in all the Rephlex posts [are] quite entertaining and that's the job > of a company like a record label which is entertainment based. It's job is > not to be PC. That's the job of NASA and other political and largely > commercial corporations.
At least there are some people out there understanding all this!
quoted 9 lines I highly doubt if you went to a record store and picked up a Rephlex> I highly doubt if you went to a record store and picked up a Rephlex > record and listened to it and it blew your mind that you'd stop and > think, "Well, those posts by Rephlex on the net were pretty offensive so > I'd better not buy this slammin' track." If you did then I think you're > missing the point. Musicians and labels are VERY dedicated to what they > do and if they aren't then they will be trompled over by those who are > passionate about it. > > Music is the key and everything else is insignificant!
YES. YES. YES. You should be a musician. Excuse me if you already are! -Steve -lammers1@pilot.msu.edu