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1995-06-11 17:49Alan M. Parry!!! Mail forwarded by idm-owner, fluid@hyperreal.com !!! !!! Original message and sender b

From:: Alan M. Parry <fluid@hyperreal.com>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: rdj = genius (FWD)

!!! Mail forwarded by idm-owner, fluid@hyperreal.com !!! !!! Original message and sender below !!! Date: Sun, 11 Jun 95 14:39 BST From: AFO <DEV4@FAWDON.NORTHUMBRIA.AC.UK> To: IDM <IDM@HYPERREAL.COM> Subject: rdj=genius last night before bed,i put my headphones on and listened to 'alberto balsam' in the dark. i wont even attempt to try to describe the experience. to have the ability to extract a piece of music as that from a machine is simply the work of a genius. afo.

1995-06-11 22:17Greg EarleAFO writes: > Last night before bed, I put headphones on and listened to 'Alberto Balsam'

From:: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.tujunga.ca.us>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 15:17:21 -0700
Subject:: We're so sorry, Uncle Alberto
Reply to:: rdj = genius (FWD)

AFO writes:

quoted 4 lines Last night before bed, I put headphones on and listened to 'Alberto Balsam'

> Last night before bed, I put headphones on and listened to 'Alberto Balsam' > in the dark. I won't even attempt to try to describe the experience. To > have the ability to extract a piece of music as that from a machine is > simply the work of a genius.

Ack! Phbbt! Well, I guess this is final proof that *this* (nearly) 37 year old Sta-Puft marshmallow man (thanks Kent (-: ) has totally lost touch with the Youth Of Today. I've had "I Care ... " in the car CD deck non-stop for quite a while, trying to get a firm impression that only 10-20 listens can bring. After making a mental note of my most & least favorites, "Alberto" comes out next to worst every time (only the throwaway track before it beats it to the bottom). It just doesn't do anything for me. 'Course, then again, it probably wouldn't surprise you if I said "Start As You Mean To Go On" is my fave ... I'm beginning to believe what he said in that interview. The strings tracks are nice and all, but he doesn't seem to add much to them himself; plus, maybe you young'uns haven't heard this yet, but Public Image covered this territory eons ago with "Radio Nine" off of "Second Edition" (aka "Metal Box") much more effectively. I'm not really impressed overall with "I Care". - Greg

1995-06-12 04:11Miles EganOn Sun, 11 Jun 1995, Greg Earle wrote: > I'm beginning to believe what he said in that int

From:: Miles Egan <cullen@atlas.chem.utah.edu>
To:: I.D.M. <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:11:59 -0600 (MDT)
Subject:: Re: We're so sorry, Uncle Alberto
Reply to:: We're so sorry, Uncle Alberto

On Sun, 11 Jun 1995, Greg Earle wrote:

quoted 5 lines I'm beginning to believe what he said in that interview. The strings tracks

> I'm beginning to believe what he said in that interview. The strings tracks > are nice and all, but he doesn't seem to add much to them himself; plus, > maybe you young'uns haven't heard this yet, but Public Image covered this > territory eons ago with "Radio Nine" off of "Second Edition" (aka "Metal > Box") much more effectively. I'm not really impressed overall with "I Care".

I always hated that track. It's just about the only track on the album I routinely avoid. Every time I hear it I wonder why they didn't try to do more with it. I've been digging in a lot of different musical burrows for quite a while now and RDJ's stuff sounds pretty unique to me. I don't think _I Care_ flows at all as an album, but it's quite impressive as a collection of singles. I've also decided to do my best to ignore anything concerning him in the press, whether it comes straight from his mouth or not. I intend to concentrate entirely on the records, which are fine.

1995-06-12 07:04Paul SeymourGreg Earle writes: >mental note of my most & least favorites, "Alberto" comes out next to

From:: Paul Seymour <paul23@netcom.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 23:04:23 -0800
Subject:: Re: We're so sorry, Uncle Alberto

Greg Earle writes:

quoted 5 lines mental note of my most & least favorites, "Alberto" comes out next to

>mental note of my most & least favorites, "Alberto" comes out next to >worst every time (only the throwaway track before it beats it to the >bottom). It just doesn't do anything for me. 'Course, then again, it >probably wouldn't surprise you if I said "Start As You Mean To Go On" >is my fave ...

I think both tracks are amazing! (As is the rest of the album). It IS just a collection of single tracks. RDJ's range in style is impressive, to me at least.

quoted 2 lines I'm beginning to believe what he said in that interview. The strings

>I'm beginning to believe what he said in that interview. The strings >tracks are nice and all, but he doesn't seem to add much to them himself;

I don't think the string selections were sampled. In tracks like 'The Waxenpith' or 'Icct Hedral'(another personal favorite), perhaps the single instruments (or collected instruments) were sampled, but not the "melody". And, I'm sure the samples themselves have gone through some type of processing. I don't think RDJ could ever just sample something straigt without altering or filtering it in some way. P4UL S3YMOU2 [P4S4D3N4, C4L1F02N14]

Re: We're so sorry, Uncle Alberto