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1995-05-24 22:23MATTSON ERIC Money talks
├─ 1995-05-25 03:57Christopher William Niemitz Re: Money talks
│ └─ 1995-05-25 07:06ozymandias G desiderata In defense of "deep" and "dark" (and possibly "dork")
└─ 1995-05-25 20:22Kathleen Vrshek Re: Money talks
1995-05-25 15:48Oeyvind Eggen Re: Money talks
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1995-05-24 22:23MATTSON ERICAre we, each of us, going to write about the cheap bargains we have been dealing in the la
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Wed, 24 May 1995 18:23:27 -0400 (EDT)
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Are we, each of us, going to write about the cheap bargains we have been dealing in the last years ????. I remember in 1976 I got...... Pretty boring and ininteresting. ********************************************************************** Eric "Aleph6" Neurom-X Interactive Communication *********************************************************************
1995-05-25 03:57Christopher William NiemitzOn Wed, 24 May 1995, MATTSON ERIC wrote: > > Are we, each of us, going to write about the
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Wed, 24 May 1995 20:57:52 -0700 (PDT)
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On Wed, 24 May 1995, MATTSON ERIC wrote:
quoted 5 lines Are we, each of us, going to write about the cheap bargains we have been> > Are we, each of us, going to write about the cheap bargains we have been > dealing in the last years ????. I remember in 1976 I got...... > > Pretty boring and ininteresting.
No more boring than reading review after review of idm/ambient material that declare how "dark" or "deep" something is.
1995-05-25 07:06ozymandias G desiderata> No more boring than reading review after review of idm/ambient > material that declare h
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Thu, 25 May 95 01:06:03 -0600
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quoted 2 lines No more boring than reading review after review of idm/ambient> No more boring than reading review after review of idm/ambient > material that declare how "dark" or "deep" something is.
Now, wait a minute here, Chris! Those are my two favorite descriptive words you're beating up on there! I would argue that both of those words have definite, useful meanings, even if there are those of us on the ambient and idm lists that use them overmuch. "Dark" music is exactly that: gloomy, brooding, maybe even a little menacing, and generally Gothic (in the classical, architecturally overwrought sense). Dark music has an edge; it's not safe; it has little rough edges that give listeners those little adrenaline kicks that cause full-on body rushes. Lagowski, some Autechre, quite a bit of the Aphex Twin's older stuff, and most everything on Sabrettes is dark music. "Deep" is a little harder to define, but it's still possible. To me, a deep track is one that goes all the way -- repetition, loopiness, slow permutation, minimalism -- all of these are qualities that make something sound deep. Deep music will lull you into a trance, soothe you when you're stressed, and generally take over your brain with its own rhythms and textures. Paragons of deepness include Orbital, Underworld, and just about everyone on Metroplex. The combination can be devastating. If you want to see both in action, I point you no farther than the inimitable Basic Channel posse. Or maybe Lustmord, if you're approaching things from the ambient side of the coin. There is music that will spook you out and put you to sleep at the same time. Granted, these terms may be a little vague, but they definitely are useful. If something's dark it's not likely going to be commercial wailing-diva house, and if it's deep it's not likely to be disposable "rave" music. do we have an understanding? ozy ozymandias G desiderata personal info : http://www.mbc.umt.edu/ogd/ discographies : http://www.mbc.umt.edu/ogd/aaxz/discogs Missoula raves: http://www.mbc.umt.edu/ogd/aaxz/raves/
1995-05-25 20:22Kathleen VrshekOn Wed, 24 May 1995, MATTSON ERIC wrote: > Are we, each of us, going to write about the ch
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Thu, 25 May 1995 15:22:32 -0500 (CDT)
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On Wed, 24 May 1995, MATTSON ERIC wrote:
quoted 4 lines Are we, each of us, going to write about the cheap bargains we have been> Are we, each of us, going to write about the cheap bargains we have been > dealing in the last years ????. I remember in 1976 I got...... > > Pretty boring and ininteresting.
So is reading things by people who can't spell. If you don't like the subject, hit the button with the "D" on it, and voila, you're done! Mistress of Simplicity
1995-05-25 15:48Oeyvind Eggen>On Wed, 24 May 1995, MATTSON ERIC wrote: > >> >> Are we, each of us, going to write about
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Thu, 25 May 1995 10:48:34 -0500
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quoted 10 lines On Wed, 24 May 1995, MATTSON ERIC wrote:>On Wed, 24 May 1995, MATTSON ERIC wrote: > >> >> Are we, each of us, going to write about the cheap bargains we have been >> dealing in the last years ????. I remember in 1976 I got...... >> >> Pretty boring and ininteresting. > >No more boring than reading review after review of idm/ambient >material that declare how "dark" or "deep" something is.
And no more boring than reading mail quarelling over whether to stop a thread or not. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Oeyvind Eggen "I think I'm good at self critisicm, especially on myself" T.Ravelli Sweden's national goal keeper in soccer oeyegg@james.avh.unit.no ------------------------------------------------------------------