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Hello, I have compiled a grid discography and I was wondering if people could help me fill in the blanks. In particular, I need information about their first album and any singles which do not appear in the discography already. I have 456, but I keep forgetting to bring it with me when I log in, so I can get the information on that album. Also bpms or track time corrections are welcome. Also, more generally, has a Deconstruction discography been done? They have some idm, but drift off into dancey soul (for lack of a better name) like K-klass and such. Thanks [fletcher] - [on now : the grid : rollercoaster : the global communication yellow submarine re-take] -------- _______________ _______ ___________________________ / _____ ____ || ____ \ \ \ / / | | __| || | \ \ \ The Grid Discography \ / / _ | | | _|| | _ \ \ \ Noriss/Bell \ | |___| || | \ \__| || |___| | | October, 1994 | |_______||_| \_____||_______| |__________________________| Information compiled by [fletcher] - [fms@mit.edu] Many thanks to Michael Wertheim, Fluid for the discography format, and to all those on IDM for additions and corrections. ---------------------------------- Title: Figure of Eight Released: Label: Virgin VSCD 1421 Tracks: 126 03:32 Figure of Eight (456 7" Edit) 127 06:23 Figure of Eight (Grid Tribal Trance Mix) 124 06:27 Figure of Eight (Todd's Master Dub) 122 04:00 Magic Tree Title: Heartbeat Released: Label: Virgin VSCDT 1427 Tracks: 98 04:01 Heartbeat (Radio Edit) 126 05:29 Heartbeat (Back to the Future Mix) 126 05:27 Heartbeat (Purple Heart Mix) 98 04:44 Heartbeat (456 Mix) Title: Crystal Clear Released: Label: Virgin VSCDT 1442 Tracks: 128 03:42 Crystal Clear (Prankster Prophet Edit) 128 07:40 Crystal Clear (Prankster Prophet Mix) 128 07:46 Crystal Clear (Prankster Trance Dance) 123 04:38 Crystal Clear (Trimar Mix) 133 08:28 Crystal Clear (Clear, Like An Unmuddied Lake) 133 07:18 Crystal Clear (The Crystal Clear Water Revival) Title: Texas Cowboys Released: Label: Deconstruction/RCA/BMG 74321 16776 2 Tracks: 136 05:55 Texas Cowboys 127 06:11 Rise 136 07:05 Texas Cowboys (High Plains Prankster Mix) 127 05:53 Cheerleader song Title: Evolver Released: 1994 Label: Deconstruction/RCA/BMG 74321 22718 2 Tracks: 07:53 Wake Up [Sax / Alex Gifford] 06:34 Rollercoaster [Vocals / Susannah Melvon] 05:41 Swamp Thing [Banjo / Roger Dinsdale] 05:04 Throb [Snakeskin Guitar / thRobert Fripp Synth Squelches / Alex Gifford] 06:07 Rise [Vocals / Donna Gardner Percussion / Pablo Cook] 06:44 Shapes of Sleep [Somnambulent Guitar / Robert Fripp 101 / Alex Gifford] 06:11 Higher Peaks [Guitar & Treatments / Robert Fripp Rhythmic Vocals / Susannah Melvon Opera Vocals / Martyn Sharp] 05:51 Texas Cowboys 05:31 Spin Cycle [CS5 / Alex Gifford] 08:35 Golden Dawn [Opera Vocals / Martyn Sharp Piano / Alex Gifford] Title: Swamp Thing Released: 1994 Label Deconstruction/RCA/BMG Notes: Banjo / Roger Dinsdale 3 & 4 mixed / Michael Kilkie & Stuart Crichton Tracks: 03:59 Swamp Thing (Radio Mix) 07:11 Swamp Thing (Grid Southern Comfort Mix) 07:10 Swamp Thing (Deep Dub Piece) 08:53 Swamp Thing (Deep Piece Mix) Title: Rollercoaster Released: 1994 Label: Deconstruction/RCA/BMG Notes: Vocals/ Susannah Melvon 3 & 4 mixed / Justin Robinson 5 mixed / Mark Pritchard & Tom Middleton Tracks: 03:34 Rollercoaster (Radio Edit) 06:52 Rollercoaster (Nemesis Mix) 07:27 Rollercoaster (Lionrock House Sound of Doosbury) 07:23 Rollercoaster (Lionrock Toolbag Mix) 08:17 Rollercoaster (The Global Communications Yellow Submarine Retake) ---------------------------------- For additions, corrections, and further information, mail fms@mit.edu ----------------------------------

I wasn't sure which list to post this to, I thought ambient would be too much of a stretch. so here goes. Does anyone out there have the 4,5,6 CD by the grid? I'm listening to it now (for the first time in a while) and with headphones While i noticed before that it had been mastered from vinyl(from surface noise) I didn't realize how annoying the amount of noise there is in the beginning until I tried listening with headphones. Does anyone out there have a copy of 456 that doesn't have this excessive surface noise or know about whether this cd was remastered? [I was motivated to put it on after listening to the cd single of swamp thing, which I found for 50c and couldn't stand listening to more than 30 seconds of any of the mixes on it. I wanted to double check that 456 was the masterpiece I had remembered or whether my tastes had change--needless to say 456 is far more sophisticated than texas cowboys or swamp thing--Can anyone with "rollercoaster" tell me whether the rest of the cd is as shitty as these two singles?] -- niemitz@cats.ucsc

quoted 5 lines Does anyone out there have the 4,5,6 CD by the grid? I'm listening to it

> Does anyone out there have the 4,5,6 CD by the grid? I'm listening to it > now (for the first time in a while) and with headphones While i noticed > before that it had been mastered from vinyl(from surface noise) I didn't > realize how annoying the amount of noise there is in the beginning > until I tried listening with headphones.

Urrr . . . I've just spent the last few minutes with the headphones on, wandering about on my copy of 456 and have absolutely no idea what you're on about, though I suppose it's possible that there's a crappy mastering of it floating around out there. My perfectly wonderful sounding copy is in a "Virgin Value"-stickered jewelbox with a translucent (but not crystal clear :-) tray with the photoreversed dice artwork underneath, and the matrix number on the inner ring of the CD itself is 786462 2 2 EMI SWINDON. (The jewel box has "MANUFACTURED BY EMI" pressed into the ridges along the bottom edge as well.) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message.

Sorry for the wasted bandwidth, but could whoever maintains the Grid discography please mail me. I've got a question for ya... Thanks! - Matthew

Well, I'd imagine most everyone who wanted these two have found them - _ISDN_ is just about perfect, IMHO, with a range of sounds on one disc that could easily span a dozen. Thumbs up. _Spanners_ I haven't listened to enough yet, but what I've heard, I like. A lot. The Grid - heard someone spinning a track of the new record (_Evolve_?), and I was really intrigued - it was fantastic! Any thoughts/opines about it? DM .------------------------------------------dave.manning@dreamland.unomaha.edu | "It's in my brain now..." dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu | dmanning@eworld.com .-------------------------------------------- dgmanning@aol.com

quoted 4 lines The Grid - heard someone spinning a track of the new record (_Evolve_?), and I

> > The Grid - heard someone spinning a track of the new record (_Evolve_?), and I > was really intrigued - it was fantastic! Any thoughts/opines about it? >

"Evolver" was the Grid's latest full-length CD. It's pretty good, I have a tape here but unfortunately no track names (it's my friend's disc). Texas Cowboy was the first single I heard of to be taken from the CD, although IMHO it's one of the weaker tracks (at least the album version... I haven't heard the remixes). My favorite track is the one with the Banjo in it (Swamp Thing? something like that). Someone with a copy of the disc with them can prolly fill in the blanks :-) Later, -H-

The tracks on the Grid disk are as follows: wake up rollercoaster swamp thing throb rise shapes of sleep higher peaks texas cowboys spin cycle golden dawn Most of em are pretty damn good.....Robert fripp helps on throb, shapes of sleep, and higher peaks..... i like all the tracks fairly well, 'cept 4 golden dawn...i laughed at first, then i wanted to vomit....good disk though....orbitalish danceability at times....sometimes the samples annoy me though... not really. Just when i'm already pissed off. Back to pompous old E.E. Evans-Pritchard.... i h8 school OnNow: Loop Guru's "Shrinic Visions" cds....oh. it's over now. OnNowNow: Certain Distant Suns "Happy on the Inside"

quoted 1 line Well, I'd imagine most everyone who wanted these two have found them -

> Well, I'd imagine most everyone who wanted these two have found them -

Not quite everybody. I haven't found either, and while I really hate pleading to an entire list to help me out finding them, I'm nearing that last result.. Any volunteers? :) -Merrick Brown- -mvbrown@tenet.edu- -Vertigo-

I'm stuck this week in Provo Utah, and the local flannel-trend-monger station ("that was Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam, coming up: Porno for Pyros and Marylin Manson") has inexplicably picked up "Swamp Thing" by the Grid. -- Kent Williams kent@cadsi.com "Swirling a sound [in Quadrophonic Space] at an audio rate produces interesting spatial and modulative effects" -- Serge Modular Product Spec Sheet.

On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Kent Williams wrote:

quoted 3 lines I'm stuck this week in Provo Utah, and the local flannel-trend-monger

> I'm stuck this week in Provo Utah, and the local flannel-trend-monger > station ("that was Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam, coming up: Porno for Pyros > and Marylin Manson") has inexplicably picked up "Swamp Thing" by the Grid.

Be very afraid. I think our European friends have been through this already, but the local pop stations have latched on to this with the sort of ferocity usually reserved for records by long-haired-sweaty-mens (pronounce this like Blaine from "In Living Color")... It's getting hourly airplay around here, which is of course quite a lot for a track that pretty firmly falls into the "cute the first time I heard it / annoying as all hell the tenth time" category. The Grid have released their fair share of solid, competent records: this is not one of them. - d.w., grand overlord of kvetching

quoted 3 lines On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Kent Williams wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Kent Williams wrote: > > ...has inexplicably picked up "Swamp Thing" by the Grid. >

And Dave Walker replied...

quoted 3 lines Be very afraid.

> Be very afraid. > > I think our European friends have been through this already,

Yeah we have. just wait till you get "every body gonfi-gon" and "cotton eye joe" as well. UUUUUURGH!! The best option (which I follow almost all the time) is not to listen to the radio or go to mainstream clubs, or watch TV, or anything else that might expose me to this shit, but just go into record shops and buy the music I want to hear. OK so were losing the IDM thread... J ^ James Skilton aka Steady J - jamess@firefox.co.uk ^---+ What's in the basket? My Brother!