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They say tecs, we say technology I SAY TITO!

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1995-01-28 16:08Teep They say tecs, we say technology I SAY TITO!
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1995-01-28 16:08Teep> > You cannot deny the power of repetition. Variation is good, but you > > if you stray t
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quoted 13 lines You cannot deny the power of repetition. Variation is good, but you> > You cannot deny the power of repetition. Variation is good, but you > > if you stray too far from the primal beat, you loose part of the > > groove and the music becomes too detached from our physical > > nature. Its not that I don't like abstract music, but the best music > > is a balance between mental/abstract and primal/physical. > > Somewhere during my abortive career as a music major,I heard a lecture > by a professor who said the key to great music was a balance between > predictability and unpredictability. If music is too unpredictable it > sounds random; if it is too predictable it's boring. > > Music that depends on a groove ... runs the risk of becoming boring. > The best music rides the edge.
Ahh, and if the groove is being driven by a man like Tito Puente.... :) I was at the Charles Hotel Ballroom whistling and whooping it up along with Tito and his Latin Jazz All Stars and variation was the WORD last night. Like a good Black Dog track, Tito's works many "stops" "pops" and "kick its" into every song. TIMBALERO! I cut the rug with my girl till they threw us out. Talk about your IDM. I got to thinking about the moments when "the beat" is not banished to simply keeping time. Tito's beat takes the lead and the rest of the "fourteen piece salsa powerhouse" are right behind him musically nipping at his heels, racing around the room creating swells of sweet melody and filling every molecule of "space" with a potpourri of noise. My spirit soared. I got to thinking about the idea of "unison." When "the beat" is so deeply engraved into song structure it feels as if it's towing the line not walking along behind the rest of the musicians. For this IDM buyer it's a prerequisite of sorts when I'm deciding what to bring home from the shoppe. The IDM moments were a plenty. His movements on the vibes had me thinking about the u-ziq, and that album in the works he hints to in the TEEX3 liner notes. :) And of course when America's finest flutist "Dave Valentin" jumped up on stage for a cameo, my jaw hit the floor. At his best when he was combining sounds from his voice along with the singing of a piece of metal in his hands. Sensational. Also on the IDM thread tip, it was interesting to hear Tito poke fun at the rainbow collection that filled up the ballroom with energy. Blacks, whites, Jews and Puerto Ricans, gays and women were razed in over the course of the night, yet there wasn't ever an ounce of malcontent felt. It was just Tito as he said ..."trying to get to you." I was so moved last night by that show I felt like making some time for a full review. Then again, these thoughts here might suffice to create a new set of threads. Teep on now: "Sassafras" - plaid mix (don't get caught sleeping on this one) <UNKLE "the time has come e.p. - mo wax) the time HAS come :)
1995-01-28 16:33Kent Williams[Loving review of Tito Puente] Every so often latin american music invades pop music in th
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[Loving review of Tito Puente] Every so often latin american music invades pop music in the US; it's about time. In the 50's Charlie parker played with Chano Pozo, in the 60's Stan Getz took on the Gilbertos. When you get tired of bleeps, seek out some Cuban dance music by all means. Most cuban cuts are driven by what they call the 'clave' (which is a wooden instrument you play with a stick, but also a musical figure). The clave is a simple one or two measure rhythmic figure played up front on either a wood block or a cowbell. The clave is the skeleton, and the rest of the music can float and soar around it. And then there's the best salsa, which will make you want to dance unless you're already dead and decomposed. And Brazilian Carnival music. Smokin! I've got a collection of various vinyl records from 'El Sud' that I plan on plundering fully for loops and samples. Cultural imperialism I know, but I can't help my self ...
1995-01-28 22:29JAHODGE@vaxsar.vassar.edu>Every so often latin american music invades pop music in the US; it's >about time. In the
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quoted 5 lines Every so often latin american music invades pop music in the US; it's>Every so often latin american music invades pop music in the US; it's >about time. In the 50's Charlie parker played with Chano Pozo, in the >60's Stan Getz took on the Gilbertos. > >When you get tired of bleeps, seek out some Cuban dance music by all means.
Growing up in Chicago, I've always had a bad taste in my mouth when it came to the latino influence in music.. I hope this doesn't sound racist, and I certainly don't believe it's a total truth, but freestyle, latin jazz, and house has always had an air of cheesyness to it.. I think this has much to do with WBMX and B96 being so dominant in Chicago.. I almost always found the early latino house cuts to be unbelievably corny.. And as of late, songs like "Shake your Tetas" and "The Drink" seem to follow in the same footsteps.. HOWEVER, I believe that alot of indigenous music of the cultures is wonderful.. I just don't think it translates well into pop music.. God I hate freestyle, God I hate freestyle, God I hate freestyle..... Feel free to criticize me on this one, but I just can't help the way I feel.. Jamie Hodge .., ........, .........., .........., ........, .., B.U.a.R.P.
1995-01-29 02:38PaulT23@aol.comThis thread is taking psychic turns for me. First a Miles Fusion head responds, then an "a
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This thread is taking psychic turns for me. First a Miles Fusion head responds, then an "abortive music major" reminds me of myself then TEEP starts talking about Tito caribbean groove. I play in a band that plays Caribbean Carnival Soca music ( then I go home & listen to IDM & ambient ). The Message ( ? ) : If you listen to IDM - you're probably into some cool shit - If you only listen to IDM, you are missing out on a world of intelligent dance music. Now On : African Head Charge - "Touch I" remix EP