IDM Mailing Archive

The longer I'm on this list, the smarter I get - in spite of myself. I know that if some artist or band has any recorded material committed to wax, well, Lazlo owns it or has seen it. I know that if a good record of any idm variety has made its way into the great state of Utah, Pete Ashdown has heard it - even if his reviews are few and far between. And I know that in spite of his "grumpy" bursts, Jon Drukman can pick a winner a mile away. Case in point: the self-titled debut (?) by Young American Primitive. Jon's mentioned this record several times over the past several months as being fantastic, etc., etc., and while I usually make mental notes to pick up, or at least track down what he recommends, I wasn't even looking for YAP as I was browsing the somewhat-"local" record store I frequent when I'm in Detroit. The cover art - an array of satellite dishes - caught my eye first; then the name, then the $8 price. I could do no wrong buying this. I'm sure there's a Drukman-penned review of this record out there somewhere on hyperreal. Find it, read it, believe the hype, and locate this disc. It's not Aphex-hard or u-Ziq-weird, but it's good, solid, intelligent dance music. Well worth the drive time to find. Dave ps. Relevant to all the AstralWerks stuff: Has anyone used their mail order they advertise in their magazine ads? I'm thinking I want the domestic disc of _u-Ziq vs. the Auteurs_ and the 777 double release. On Now: The hum of the air conditioners in the machine room. .------------------------------------------dave.manning@dreamland.unomaha.edu | "It's in my brain now..." dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu | dmanning@eworld.com .-------------------------------------------- dgmanning@aol.com

uOn Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Dave Manning wrote:

quoted 2 lines winner a mile away. Case in point: the self-titled debut (?) by Young

> winner a mile away. Case in point: the self-titled debut (?) by Young > American Primitive.

quoted 4 lines I'm sure there's a Drukman-penned review of this record out there

> I'm sure there's a Drukman-penned review of this record out there > somewhere on hyperreal. Find it, read it, believe the hype, and locate > this disc. It's not Aphex-hard or u-Ziq-weird, but it's good, solid, > intelligent dance music. Well worth the drive time to find.

Buy quick. Word of mouth says there were only 2000 copies made of this one. It is excellent. BTW-I know the guy got signed by some label (I think under a different name) and has something either out now or very soon. An interesting note-YAP used to be a roadie for the Beach Boys. In fact, he recorded the entire album using equipment borrowed from them. Either they have some really wicked shit to make surfboard music, or the guy's just an absolute genius. After listening to the album, one wonders why they don't just give up and retire, knowing they couldn't possibly do anything that cool with the same equipment. I hope I don't get flamed by some secret Beach Boys fan lurking out there! Kathy, mistress of beach boys

On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Kathleen Vrshek wrote:

quoted 7 lines An interesting note-YAP used to be a roadie for the Beach Boys. In fact,

> An interesting note-YAP used to be a roadie for the Beach Boys. In fact, > he recorded the entire album using equipment borrowed from them. Either > they have some really wicked shit to make surfboard music, or the guy's > just an absolute genius. After listening to the album, one wonders why > they don't just give up and retire, knowing they couldn't possibly do > anything that cool with the same equipment. I hope I don't get flamed by > some secret Beach Boys fan lurking out there!

You know, YAP thanks the Beach Boys along with his folks - I thought it was a joke. :-) In terms of the BB retiring - I think they already have; they haven't had an original record out for nearly a decade, have they? Remember, though, before you bash those purveyors of pop destiny, that at least one of them, Brian Wilson, was directly responsible for one of the most *wonderful* uses of technology, mixing, and audio effects in the form of "Good Vibrations". Next time you listen to the song, or stumble across the odd BB cd at your local store, *really* listen to it. Wilson spent nearly $10,000 producing the SINGLE alone, and that was nearly 30 years ago. The sounds he produces - out of organs, primitive synthesizers (at least to us Warp fiends), and guitars is nothing short of brilliant. (We now return you to your regularly scheduled content, in progress) Dave .------------------------------------------dave.manning@dreamland.unomaha.edu | "It's in my brain now..." dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu | dmanning@eworld.com .-------------------------------------------- dgmanning@aol.com

["Good Vibrations"]

quoted 2 lines The sounds he produces - out of organs, primitive synthesizers (at

>The sounds he produces - out of organs, primitive synthesizers (at >least to us Warp fiends)

I'd say a Theremin is fairly primitive by just about any standard, unless you want to start comparing it to the Telharmonium or something. :) C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ...electro-spiritual in composition...

Chris Hilker writes:

quoted 2 lines I'd say a Theremin is fairly primitive by just about any standard, unless you

> I'd say a Theremin is fairly primitive by just about any standard, unless you > want to start comparing it to the Telharmonium or something. :)

Does anyone actually know more about these ancient electronic instruments, like Theremin, Ondes Martinot, Telharmonium, Mellotron, etc.? This is just a private interest of my own, since I've been compiling some kind of history of electronic music for some time now. It would also be nice to know if any contemporary IDM/techno/etc. acts still utilize these instruments. Talking 'bout the *true* analogue... (: Post or mail (if you don't think this is of interest to the other IDM'ers). ER trerra@uta.fi PS. I recommend everyone to read the 'Incredibly Strange Music' books, volumes one and two (Re/Search). There are tons of stuff on the early Moog recordings, exotica and cocktail lounge music LPs and other truly weird stuff, and tens of hilarious record covers... Now, back to our regular IDM marching order.

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Erkki Rautio wrote:

quoted 11 lines Chris Hilker writes:

> Chris Hilker writes: > > > I'd say a Theremin is fairly primitive by just about any standard, unless you > > want to start comparing it to the Telharmonium or something. :) > > Does anyone actually know more about these ancient electronic instruments, > like Theremin, Ondes Martinot, Telharmonium, Mellotron, etc.? This is > just a private interest of my own, since I've been compiling some kind > of history of electronic music for some time now. It would also be > nice to know if any contemporary IDM/techno/etc. acts still utilize > these instruments. Talking 'bout the *true* analogue... (:

Hmm, let's see. The mellotron is just a big bunch of tape loops. Nice sound though. Unfortunately they are *very* expensive! Theremin's are lots of fun and i'm in the process of building one right now. You can get some really wild sound's from it! Actually, it's one of Bob Moog's favourite instruments. He works for Big Briar now and is in the process of making and marketing a new breed of theremins that are completely midi'able. They're supposedly very wicked sounding and the price is not unreasonable, running around 2000 i believe. Even so that's a bit much for me at this time. There's also a movie coming out, or out, that chronicles the life of theremin, the russian (i believe) who discovered it back in the 20's. If you're looking for theremin music, by far the best and most recognized player is a woman who played many years ago of the Clara Rockmore. Apparently she just recently played somewhere. My own opinion is that it's an amazing instrument which is very underplayed in modern electronic music, which is good because i want to use one! ;)

quoted 6 lines PS. I recommend everyone to read the 'Incredibly Strange Music'

> > PS. I recommend everyone to read the 'Incredibly Strange Music' > books, volumes one and two (Re/Search). There are tons of stuff on the > early Moog recordings, exotica and cocktail lounge music LPs and other > truly weird stuff, and tens of hilarious record covers... > Now, back to our regular IDM marching order.

I love moog albums! Ok, not really idm, but fun nonetheless. Actually, most of them tend to be very campy except for the walter/wendy carlos albums. I kept playing my 'Santa Claus plays the moog' over the holidays. It sure turned a lot of heads! karl

quoted 3 lines I know that in spite of his "grumpy" bursts, Jon Drukman can pick a

> I know that in spite of his "grumpy" bursts, Jon Drukman can pick a > winner a mile away. Case in point: the self-titled debut (?) by Young > American Primitive.

I visited Jon summer before last and am just about done tracking down every single disc he pulled out and played for me. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Visit http://rt66.com/lazlo/ for Discographies, Record ::: Collecting Resources, The Internet Music Wantlists, and more.

Kathleen Vrshek exhorts:

quoted 4 lines Buy quick. Word of mouth says there were only 2000 copies made of this

>Buy quick. Word of mouth says there were only 2000 copies made of this >one. It is excellent. BTW-I know the guy got signed by some label (I >think under a different name) and has something either out now or very >soon.

From the cyberdesk of: Jeff Kihn

quoted 2 lines As for the CD, it is quite good indeed, and there are still several copies

>As for the CD, it is quite good indeed, and there are still several copies >floating around the San Francisco area...

Is this the same YAP:YAP CD that came out last year or so or are y'all referring to a new one? The one I have is the one with "Waves" - an announcer giving a lecture on how he can focus these waves with his brain, like a lens, etc... Still a favoured CD in my collection. OnNow: Orb UltraRare Trax CD. "Hey, Mike! That sh*t you're playing iz totally Kung-Fu, man." - Da House d00dz ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael King mike%delta1@rex.cs.tulane.edu Delta Systems New Orleans, LA 70002-4938 Voice: 504.837.9835 Fax: 504.837.9838 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can always tell a pioneer by the arrows in their back ------------------------------------------------------------------------