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1994-09-06 23:31JAMIE M. HODGECheck the 4 hero remix on Cold Mission's release on Reinforced.. plus, check the e-z rolle

From:: JAMIE M. HODGE <JAHODGE@vaxsar.vassar.edu>
To:: <IDM@hyperreal.com>
Date:: 06 Sep 1994 19:31:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Intelligent Jungle

Check the 4 hero remix on Cold Mission's release on Reinforced.. plus, check the e-z rollers 10" and ANYTing LTJ Bukem has graced as of late.. Nice one Chris! Jamie Hodge

1994-11-01 13:36lw94benYeah that Spring Heel Jack stuff is decent... they were doing a DJ-improv set at Quirky in

From:: lw94ben <lw94ben@brunel.ac.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 13:36:41
Subject:: Intelligent Jungle

Yeah that Spring Heel Jack stuff is decent... they were doing a DJ-improv set at Quirky in September and kicked butt! They sell it in Ambient Soho so it _must_ be IDM! :) (no I dont work there anymore!) Links between Jungle and IDM are strong in a way... 4 Hero (jungle artists) also make pure techno under the name Nu-Era and compiled that "Deeper Shade of Techno" comp with UR, Dan Curtin + Eddie Fowlkes and the 4 Hero stuff is pretty smooth anyway. But I wouldnt go so far as to say General Levy "Incredible" was IDM though... Brendan Nelson Kinetic Illusion "Whatever you do, in your lifetime, Don't ever let an MC steal your rhyme!"

1994-11-01 14:35acnt@vax.ox.ac.ukOmni Trio are pretty good (also on Moving Shadow). I bought their fifth 12" a few weeks ag

From:: <acnt@vax.ox.ac.uk>
To:: <IDM@HYPERREAL.COM>
Date:: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 14:35:50 +0000
Subject:: Intelligent jungle

Omni Trio are pretty good (also on Moving Shadow). I bought their fifth 12" a few weeks ago : it's called "Vol 5" and includes Soul Promenade. I haven't heard anything else by them, but this is excellent, lots of frantic beats and then really chilled piano, string sounds etc. Nice sampled girl vocals as well. The bass on it is deep and I mean deep, almost sub. I think they are worth investigating further : there is a 10" remix of "Vol 4" that is highly recommended, which I may purchase soon. I am also trying to find stuff by 4 Hero, but I haven't found it in Oxford yet. Tom

1994-11-01 18:06Ian MelvenOn the "intelligent jungle" tip.. a term i hate, but not much else seems to fit.. The orig

From:: Ian Melven <cheeken@cs.bu.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 13:06:28 -0500
Subject:: Re: Intelligent jungle
Reply to:: Intelligent jungle

On the "intelligent jungle" tip.. a term i hate, but not much else seems to fit.. The original of Omni Trio 4 is much better than the remix 10" Also, a discussion about whether or not jungle is starting to stagnate and which labels/artists are working on something "new" has been going on the breaks list for a while, which some of you might be interested in.. I agree with the other posts so far 4 Hero, in fact most artists on Reinforced, some of the recent Moving Shadow stuff, and some of Danny Breaks' tracks and remixes fit in with what most people call "intelligent" Just something to think about.. IDM doesn't have to be all ambient or whatever :P ian by the way, to check out the breaks list, email majordomo@xmission.com with 'subscribe breaks' in the body of your message.. :P -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian - cheeken@cs.bu.edu "Don't flee from yourself.. If you have Cheeken! a quality, be proud of it.. Let it define you, whatever it is... " http://red-branch.mit.edu/~ian/Welcome.html Boston Breaks Collective '94 - "We control the sound."

1994-11-01 15:26Andrew FreemanI just picked up an excellent compilation called 'This is Jungle' on Ultrasound. The chewn

From:: Andrew Freeman <andrewf@foe.co.uk>
To:: <IDM@HYPERREAL.COM>, <acnt@vax.ox.ac.uk>
Date:: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:26:26 +0000
Subject:: Re: Intelligent jungle

I just picked up an excellent compilation called 'This is Jungle' on Ultrasound. The chewns were compiled by Nicky Blackmarket of Blackmarket Records and they are all produced this year. A good section of reggae, darkside and ballad style cuts (16 tracks). Having ignored this scene for a couple of years I have been most impressed by some of the work that has been done over this summer in London. It has come light years from the rave crap of 'Sesames Treat/Trumpton' , and seems to be moving off into directions determined by the artists background, ie reggae, techno, soul.

1994-11-01 15:27David DoddIt's cool to hear people on this list talking about jungle, since a bunch of releases late

From:: David Dodd <dbdodd@midway.uchicago.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 1 Nov 94 9:27:20 CST
Subject:: Intelligent jungle

It's cool to hear people on this list talking about jungle, since a bunch of releases lately seem to really be listening music as much as dance music. I really like Omni Trio and Metalheads (aka Goldie) as far as interesting listening. I recently got a tape made by a DJ here (Chicago) that he describes as "intelligent drum and bass" which is very interesting in a dubby sort of way, but unfortunately I don't have a track listing. Looking at jungle in terms of musical progression, the junglists seem to be developing some really interesting ways to employ samplers. On the best stuff they have gotten out of the whole problem of having a monotonous drum thud marking the time. Instead, they loop various bass lines and sound effects to keep the time and use the drum samples more as a lead instrument, and in a fairly non-repetitive way. Of course, I'm talking about the best (IMHO) stuff; jungle always runs the risk of degenerating into noisy sound-effects records, or worse yet, into extremely fast rap music. To anyone who's interested in this kind of stuff, I'd recommend trying to find Simon Reynold's article about ambient jungle in _the Wire_ (I think it was last month's issue). In general _the Wire_ seems to cover jungle releases from an "intelligent" standpoint, and they often review jungle singles and compilations. David |*******************dbdodd@midway.uchicago.edu*******************| |"It was an abiding mystery to Adrian that all man-made rubbish | | smelt the same once it had been in a dustbin for any length of | | time." --Stephen Fry*****************************************|

1994-11-02 16:26Introspection Inc.Jamess <jamess@firefox.co.uk> recently posted: > I think you'll find that the people on th

From:: Introspection Inc. <emote@mtech.csd.uwm.edu>
To:: intelligent dance music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:26:29 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: re: intelligent jungle

Jamess <jamess@firefox.co.uk> recently posted:

quoted 2 lines I think you'll find that the people on this list spend most of their time

> I think you'll find that the people on this list spend most of their time > _listening_ to music

You'd be surprised. I'm on IDM to help me find interesting stuff to mix in when I spin trance at parties. The stuff that would be considered IDM that does have somewhat of a beat (ie AI2 et al) works perfectly well for either starting up a set or bringing everyone back down to Earth for a bit.

quoted 1 line Let's try and keep the discussion open minded shall we.

> Let's try and keep the discussion open minded shall we.

I just did. ;-) - stevenJ

Re: Intelligent jungle