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From:
Michael King
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Date:
Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:15:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject:
Re: opinions?: Rephlex Discography
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From the cyberdesk of: Alan Michael Parry
quoted 4 lines From: Andrew Bennett <abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu>> From: Andrew Bennett <abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu> > He said that he mentioned it to his boss earlier (the label owner), who > concured. The label owner indicated that if this was done to his label, > that he might sue due to the copyright violations.
I thought the US Supreme court determined that lists of factual information were specfically not copyrightable. This was regarding people who sold phone books, and the result is the phone books on CD, etc. Ma Bell couldn't sue on the grounds of copyright violation as the information was of a factual nature, and as such, contained no "creative effort". If this guy is "protecting" his label by wanting to keep the artists and products he *produces and sells* a "secret", then I for one would be extremely pissed if I was signed to the label and one of the artists being "represented" by this asshole. I can't see how this guy justifies this form of "stealth marketing" to his clients (the artists he's signed to his label). He looks more like a sue-happy profiteer than a promoter of his artists' work. Please name the label so I can avoid their products in the future.... Now if the WWW thingy contains actual "samples" of Rephlex products, then if there were some way to enforce a "play only" mode and disallow downloads, then you might just need permission from the label to make a "custom format demo version" similar to the CD-machines you can pop headphones on in Tower and listen to various CDs before you buy. Does Tower purchase these CDs? Does that constitute "public performance" and violate the license agreement printed on the CD? Did Tower obtain a special license for these CD players accessible to the public? It obviously is "promotional" in nature, but for example, could I set up a "CD Listening Room" and sell beverages with no cover or would that be called operating a "bar" and I'd have to pay ASCAP fees or something? Does Tower have an ASCAP license for the machines? How does an arrangement like that (i.e. the WWW site holds an ASCAP license) fit onto the WWW site? Do y'all need an ASCAP license, or does the site, or does the receiver's site? If you have an ASCAP license, does it matter? Is there a difference between a DJ and a WWW-cyber-DJ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael King mike%delta1@rex.cs.tulane.edu Delta Systems New Orleans, LA 70002 Voice: 504.837.9835 Fax: 504.837.9838 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Never under estimate the bandwidth of a station wagon loaded with mag tapes. -Karl Kleinpaste, postmaster Ohio State University ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- rom idm-owner Tue Mar 22 09:38:29 1994 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA21619; Tue, 22 Mar 94 09:38:29 PST Received: from rex.cs.tulane.edu by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA21605; Tue, 22 Mar 94 09:38:20 PST Received: from delta1.UUCP by rex.cs.tulane.edu; Tue, 22 Mar 94 11:38:15 CST Subject: Strange Cargo To: IDM List <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:09:51 -0600 (CST) From: Michael King <mike%delta1@cs.tulane.edu> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1837 Message-Id: <9403211609.aa25436@delta1.UUCP> Sender: idm-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU I know there's been some mention of William Orbit's Strange Cargo 3 with some hearty recommendations. I'm still waiting for the f*ckers who keep buying the stock before I get to it at Tower to back off so I can get one. Oh, the problems of not being able to shop on Tuesday mornings when they get their shipments in. Anyways, I have Strange Cargo 1, released in 1988 on IRS as part of their "No Speak" series. It is No Speak #4. Catalog # IRS 42098 All the tracks were pleasant, but none real standouts. I liked "Fire & Mercy", "Out of the Ice" sounded like a bored rework of Blondie's "Rapture", and my favorite was "Jimmy's Jag". I really wish that track had been reworked into a longer one. Tremendous energy building in it, but the loops are too short and the guitar riff is just painful, but I think that it really is an important part of the song. It just seems to "belong" there. Just wish they would have toned it down a notch and not put the Marshall on 11. Track Listing: A1: Via Caliente B1: Out of the Ice A2: Fire and Mercy B2: Scorpion A3: Jump Jet B3: Riding to Rio A4: Silent Signals B4: Jimmy's Jag A5: The Secret Garden B5: The Mightt Limpopo B6: Theme Dream Later Days & Brighter Rays ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael King mike%delta1@rex.cs.tulane.edu Delta Systems New Orleans, LA 70002 Voice: 504.837.9835 Fax: 504.837.9838 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Never under estimate the bandwidth of a station wagon loaded with mag tapes. -Karl Kleinpaste, postmaster Ohio State University ----------------------------------------------------------------------------