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djkc
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Date:
Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:34:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject:
IDM for the MASSES
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Adam J Weitzman wrote:
quoted 6 lines I'm sick and tired of the theory that "the masses are clueless; only we> > I'm sick and tired of the theory that "the masses are clueless; only we > know what good music really is." This delusional and condescending > attitude makes one seem like a complete snob, which turns people *off* to > the music you're trying to expose them to. >
Is that quoted theory from someone's post? Or are you putting words in someone else's mouth? The masses *are* clueless...due to the their ignorance of a wider musical spectrum. Nobody is saying "only we know what good music really is." We're just saying that Top40 rarely gives way to alternative/experimental stuff, which means the masses stay ignorant to the stuff. If they are given the chance to hear it from the places where they hear current Top40 (clubs, radios, MTV), then they are given a spectrum to choose from! The masses shouldn't have to blindly (or rather deafly) buy music they aren't sure about, or be required to have a friend to give them a sample (as you say you do, but this isn't mass exposure or distribution). The masses only stick to what they know. Most people don't arbitrarily try out new stuff in a music store unless they've been exposed to it...a lot. And to give the masses a choice, the music currently not being exposed as much should be given atleast equal exposure. I'm not saying be in the charts regardless of popularity, but it should all be given as much chance as the "One" video did. BTW, How do you know that is was *viewers'* choice that made that video play so much?? It's very possible that a video can be paid-to-be-played so many times that it's driven into the heads of the masses. And much of the *clueless* masses *will* buy into it. Mainly because other varieties of music don't get equal exposure and thus don't seem "popular". Masses do go with the flow. Your argument is that each music deserves the level of popularity that it currently has...that techno deserves to be right where it is... My argument is opposite. It's NOT the masses which make the music popular - - it's the music which makes the masses popular: Stick to the norm, conform, fit in, go with the flow. Well, it is a little bit of both, but MORESO the latter than the former. No, it's not the "grassy knoll" theory, but rather more subtle, it's corporate conspiracy. A big reason why techno is not up there in the Top40 is because it's on SMALL labels run by SMALL businesses, rarely corps. Aphex is getting recognition (exposure) know because he's on a BIGGER label, not because the viewers/masses requested him. So he's being given a chance like Metallica did, but there will be unequal exposure... Popularity of music is not due totally to the interest/disinterest of the masses; it's moreso due to the industry. Only a small number of people even heard of Aphex Twin. This is due to the industry! Not because the masses don't request it! HOW CAN THEY REQUEST SOMETHING THEY HAVEN'T HEARD??? And about snobbery: I find more snobs in the current Top40 world (however, due to the fact that there are more people in the mainstream, the percentage of snobs will be a greater number). There are more closed-minded people... They aren't willing to go against the flow! This happened to me lastnight; going around mainstream/Top40 clubs lastnight promoting for a rave, there are SO many cautious, unsure, some stuck-up, snobby, ignorant, closed-minded people (or maybe it's just Houston:)... WHEREAS, at a rave, nearly everyone is basically easy to chat with on a similar wavelength (well, this may be due to the fact that ravers have a more common wavelength than the vast variety of people in the mainstream do with each other). But anyway, I find many more NUMBERS of open-minded, intelligent people at raves than I do in the masses (and raves are ITTY BITTY compared to the masses!!!) Don't call us elite simply because we are a small people powerfully trying to expose the masses to the music that we play. There are those of us who get so frustrated with the industry sometimes that they seem like arrogant elitist jerks, but this should not affect the music or the mass' decisions and opinions on the music itself. So those who indeed DO have that attitude of "The top40 you listen to is crap; here, listen to some REAL music" can't be blamed for any music's unpopularity among the masses...but it would help to prevent a notorious rave scene if this attitude were left at home (I have a friend who is like this and was promoting with me last night...he turned several people off, but those people were rather snobby to begin with). Anyway, I hope atleast some of this post has valid points which disprove your theory that "techno deserves to be right where it is." How can it deserve to be there when the ladder hasn't been raised to give it a chance to climb??? The major force which raises this ladder is the industry, not the music quality or choice of the masses. That's my argument. -djkc