quoted 6 lines though. Everyone who was anyone turned up: Renaat from R&S, Morris,>> though. Everyone who was anyone turned up: Renaat from R&S, Morris,
>>Seefeel,
>> the Oscillate crew and so on and so on until it was a kind of industry
>> back-slapping affair.
>
>Unbelievable! All these guys under one roof? WHOA!!!
I was the only person in the chill-out room who had bought a record in
the past month! Everyone else was an industry blagger of some sort and I was
the only second class scumbag there. I felt so out of place!
[my stuff on idm being more cerebral than other musics]
quoted 6 lines I think these are elitist, misinformed, and generalizing (possibly> I think these are elitist, misinformed, and generalizing (possibly
> stereotyping) statements.
> Saying that other forms of music NEED speed, etc, is basically an insult
> to these forms... you're saying a person requires a dosage of drugs to
> listen to classical, pop, rock, jazz, or whatever, otherwise they sound
> like crap(to put it blatantly).
No I`m not. I`m saying that gabba, for example, isn`t made with the
armchair listener in mind, and also (you`ve got to admit) there is a tiny
minority of people who go to indie/metal clubs who don`t drink. I`ve been
listening to idm for quite a while and hardly ever use drugs, and other
people I know are the same.
And I do listen to a lot of other styles of music apart from IDM so I
don`t feel ignorant.
quoted 2 lines And saying people listening to IDM aren't into drugs is based on what> And saying people listening to IDM aren't into drugs is based on what
> facts/research?
That`s not really what I said. I said that if you go to IDM clubs
you`ll see loads of people skinning up but not as much heroin (for example),
or hard drugs in general.
quoted 3 lines If IDM is supposed to naturally put you in a drug-like state, how do>If IDM is supposed to naturally put you in a drug-like state, how do
>the musicians/composers/producers KNOW what a drug-induced state is like
>in the first place?
Because most of the musicians/composers/producers DO take drugs! I`m
not sure I implied the opppsite... but on the other hand, Daniel Pemberton
was only 15 (he`s 16 now) when he produced a tape that totally stunned
Mixmaster Morris, and he never takes any drugs at all! He`s signed to R&S
now...
quoted 2 lines I believe what you mean to say is that IDM is more hypnotic than other>I believe what you mean to say is that IDM is more hypnotic than other
>forms of music...even without drug-enhancement.
Basically, yeah.
quoted 1 line Maybe YOU require drugs to listen to other forms of music> Maybe YOU require drugs to listen to other forms of music
No I don`t, not at all.
quoted 2 lines I just don't wanna see this list get all elitist about it's music or>I just don't wanna see this list get all elitist about it's music or
>closed-minded about all other music.
Nor do I. Anyone who`s read any of my posts before will know that I have
a very eclectic musical taste.
And this particular discussion is relevant in that it does relate to idm:
it`s more like "Do you need drugs to fully enjoy IDM" rather than "Is it OK
to take drugs" so no flames please!
Peace out
Brendan Nelson
Lost Transmission From Cowley
"Experimenting for our future"