David,
quoted 4 lines face it: warp & rephlex could release whatever crap they want, they know>face it: warp & rephlex could release whatever crap they want, they know
>there's always going to be someone to buy it. their influence goes way
>beyond this mere list. ever read the warp message board? it's
>depressing.
Yes they can, as can any other label for that matter. Though it'll be
interesting how many times releases released on the aforementioned labels
will feature in the IDM-list best of 99 poll. I'm betting on not many times
and definitely less than years gone by. Welcome the little players... ;)
quoted 2 lines but anyway, you've misread my point. here is the original quote from my>but anyway, you've misread my point. here is the original quote from my
>message:
Ok, so we are quibbling other the definition of 'marginally' here. You are
right in pointing out that it's the most often talked about labels that are
guilty of such elitism, hence it might get more screen time. Though it's
not just these labels (my mentioning of cdr labels that limit their run is
a good example of such elitism), and it's just not the labels its also the
listeners attitudes too... the whole genre reeks of fanboy obsessiveness on
many levels. This doesn't worry me in particular.. i'm probably partially
guilty of such myself, but in the original context of Simon Reynolds
pointing it out.. he was pretty well on the mark with it.
quoted 16 lines favourite form of geeky elitism <huge sarcastic smile> the ridiculously>> favourite form of geeky elitism <huge sarcastic smile> the ridiculously
>> limited cdr release. I mean what the fuck? There's no reason a cdr
>> release should go out of print if there are people still willing to buy
>> it!!
>
>sorry, but that sounds petty at best. cdr releases are limited for a
>reason: usually it has to do with the fact that the person putting them
>out doesn't have the means (time or money) to do otherwise. & put
>yourself in a cdr label person's shoes: would you really enjoy turning
>your computer into a cdr factory just to make those 50 extra copies,
>when you already have a day job & a lot of other things to do with your
>time? & what if you're just a musician trying to get your music out?
>not everyone likes to run a business, you know. i know i don't.
>
>but do go ahead & back your comment with some evidence of cdr labels
>limiting their print runs just for the sake of elitism. i'm all ears.
Petty!? Explain how? I think the logic that you limit your cdr run even
though you may have another 50, 100 or 1000 paying customers cueing up at
the door is petty. Basically with each cdr sold you should be covering your
costs and then some. The 'then some part' then covers the media, cover-art
and the time spent reproducing the next cdr of the continuing run. So
bearing this in mind what logic is there for limiting your cdr run if you
have people wanting to purchase it!? You don't even have to burn the cdr
until you have received their payment in advance!!
All I said was... "There's no reason a cdr release should go out of print
if there are people still willing to buy it!!". I could point fingers and
say didn't you do somebodies cdr release in a run of 20? If so, what were
the reasons for the ridiculously limited run? Not mean't to hassle you, but
to find out your reasoning.
Still waiting for a logical argument against what i've just said...
Regards,
John
Selectronic / AI's cdr label offshoot - who's releases will always be in
print!!
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