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Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:32:54 -0800 (PST)
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Re: (idm) simon reynolds blurb on matador site
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My only point was that Simon Reynolds is bafoon for sugesting -- #1 -- That all "geektronica" (IDM) is undanceable. #2 -- That electronic music is of no use unless you can dance to it (which is a stupid argument anyway, since you CAN dance to a lot of it even if it isn't generic "dance music"). #3 -- That the root of all electronic music is dance music.
quoted 1 line You are very white.> You are very white.
Yes, I am white (but I am pretty well versed on ALL music). No, I can't dance in the conventional sense of the word (just like I can't write music in the conventional sense of the word)... that doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. No, BoC doesn't have the deepest grooves around, but yes, their rythms *DO* show a strong resemblence to a lot of down-tempo hip-hop beats. They just use less conventional sounds and textures to convey them. How can you argue that? Suggesting that Dance music was a degeneration of electronic music was a bit brash and perhaps a bit snobby on my part. I do recognize the purpose of dance music, and don't wish an end to it or anything (what else are all those kids going to dance to???). I just grow weary of people having this notion that electronic music's only purpose can be for dancing, when the technology and infinite wealth of sounds and textures allows for so much more. There is room for dance music in it, but there is also room for so much more. It is silly to suggest that because IDM may have it's roots in dance music, that it can't move beyond that (which was the suggestion that Mr. Reynolds was making). Some of us *LIKE* to think about the music we are listening to sometimes (for me, almost all the time) too, not just feel it. Yes, I'm a real nerd. No, I don't feel inferior for it... Man, I didn't think this would start a flame war (and I hope we can keep it civilized). -Andy!
quoted 19 lines :snip:> :snip: > > >I'd like to give a big pat on the back to all the creators of IDM > and > >all other forms of "undancable" secular electronic music for making > >music to listen to once again. > > You'd like to thank all of the creators of 'Intelligent Dance Music' > for not > being intelligent DANCE music? Okay... > > >Anyway, he's an idiot, because most Ae > >and Squarepusher songs I hear are very danceable to my ears. And > Boards > >of Canada? I don't think I've ever heard a BoC song that didn't have > a > >very defined "Groove" to it. > > You are very white.
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