These are great discussions, and are useful channels of discovering new
music. I can say that I've personally expanded my own collection of music
by researching artists you all have on your playlists, while also learning
that some are still using records in the digital age, on the arguable basis
that they sound better. I'd like to push a different topic though. I've
been on this list for a few months now, and through the regular analysis of
current events, the dissection of albums, the occasional humorous banter
about who's better and the rare, screaming ads about upcoming clubs, I
haven't seen any historical discussion behind the development of the music.
I'm not a music major, nor am I above thirty years old, but I'm interested
in the fact that it seems to develop in certain parts of the world among
certain portions of the population. So, to make this easy, indulge in your
favorite intoxicant of choice and give me a solid answer to one, or all if
you're willing to try, of these questions (and this was not meant to take
attention from the other equally deserving topics):
Disclaimer: I'm an IDM fan.
Is there a scale of progression in music? By that I mean, does music
progress?
If so, is IDM on the forefront of the progression of music?
If so, who is developing it, the intellectuals, musicians, or a hybrid of
both? This question doesn't imply musicians are unintelligent. It only
creates a divide between those who further knowledge, i.e. astrophysicists,
and those that further culture, i.e. painters. (I know this is in itself an
oversimplification.)
Does the embrace of IDM or similar music indicate anything about the society
that does so?
How will this music evolve from here, and how can it get better? We've all
heard how it can get worse (see Industrial).
I'm looking forward to the responses.
Mike
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From: --- [mailto:psycosyin@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:08 PM
To: 'idm'
Subject: [idm] RE: what's everyone listening to? and how?
I stick to cds; I like to have a physical manifestation of my purchase,
and easier to deal with than vinyl. That said, the new ampoule offshoot,
earplug, has caused me to make my first digital purchases recently. Out
of sheer convenience, though, I rip everything I get instantly to
computer and do all my listening through mp3 player. Stuff that's been
in my ear of late:
Cheju - Waiting For Tomorrow (new on Distant Noise)
Yvat - Kunzite (and pretty much everything that has come out on
Boltfish)
Hura Yup - Half Wolf
Keef Baker - Pen Fifteen
Kettel - Myam James 2
Pub's neverending output on ampoule/talent hoover
And lately I've had an unhealthy addiction to a local (Detroit) duo,
Champions of Breakfast. More of a novelty act; video game music with
lyrics about d&d and cheesy sexual innuendos, but their live shows are
fun.
-----Original Message-----
From: chthonic streams [mailto:chthonic@chthonicstreams.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
To: idm
Subject: what's everyone listening to? and how?
as we know, "IDM" was never truly a genre but came to be associated
with a certain "style" of electronic music.
in electronic music as in everything else, styles come and go and
sometimes come back again.
even formats change - when IDM was first coming out the CD was
dominant/ascendant, but vinyl was holding on in electronica and other
underground genres.
since then vinyl has reasserted itself while the CD has declined, and
mp3s and other digital formats have been growing exponentially.
so what electronic music gets frequent play in your music player of
choice these days? and what is that player/media?
me:
i mostly stick to CDs because IMHO they offer the best compromise
between sound quality (superior to the average mp3 rip) and artwork
(smaller than vinyl sleeves), while setting each artist and "work"
apart by locking it to a physical object and contained in a finite
piece of media.
again - just my opinion. not trying to start a format argument thread.
however i recognize the flexibility of digital-only tracks and most of
my mp3's are of electronic music due to its usual de-emphasis on
identity and image, as well as being primarily a "singles-based" music.
recent most-played electronic CDs
(in no particular order):
ellen allien/apparat - orchestra of bubbles
ellen allien - thrills
burial - (both albums)
modeselektor - happy birthday, bogeybytes mix
t. raumschmiere - the great rock'n'roll swindle
thom yorke - eraser RMXS
vex'd - degenerate
venetian snares - detrimentalist, doll doll doll, find candace
areal records 2rabimmel CD compilation
autechre - amber
aphex twin - i care because you do, classics
basic channel - BCD2
clark - turning dragon
kid606 - die soundboy die, kill sound before sound kills you
enduser - form without function
front 242 - tyranny for you
front line assembly - implode
tresor 100, tresor never sleeps compilations
joey beltram - the rising sun
my itunes "electronic" playlist is 5.5 hours of mostly techno, with
some dubstep and a bit of breakbeat.
the artist with the most tracks there is starkey.
i got most of it from beatport.
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