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Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:36:53 -0600
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RE: [idm] on mastering Re: [idm] do you master?
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ive used http://www.audibleoddities.com/ (AKA twerk) with great results. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nat hawks" To: andrewduke@cognitionaudioworks.com, idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] on mastering Re: [idm] do you master? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:34:17 -0500 alright, so, what's a good mastering price? obviously, like anything, they run the spectrum, but can you get a decent job for $100 or so? the only time i really notice-notice good mixing is when an album sounds similar on a shitty boom-box with one speaker working, a nice car stereo, and average headphones. i've only ever 'mastered' my own stuff on headhpones. the $20 sony ones. seems to work alright, for what it is. would love to get something mastered someday though. any recommendations on open-minded budget master-mastereres? nat http://www.littlefurythings.net > From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] on mastering Re: [idm] do you master? > Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:24:15 -0400 > > emulsion wrote: > >> I firmly believe that thinking you're capable of mastering just >> because you're a good producer is a BIG mistake. There's a >> reason those guys get the big bucks and it's not just their >> crazy gear. > > I agree 100%. > I get asked quite often to master for people and I always turn every > request down because I know someone else who specializes in that > can do a much better job than producer-me. Plainly put, I'm not a masterer. > The importance of a well-done mastering job cannot be overstated. > I can only speak from personal experience because only I can know > what my material sounds like when sent off to be mastered in comparison > to hearing what the mastered version sounds like. Ditto for other > artists. As consumers, we can't listen to a mastered version of something > we've bought and know what kind of magic happened between what > we hear and what was sent to be mastered because we don't get to > hear the unmastered version and do an a/b comparison. I was recently wowed: > when I got the Mark "Vapourspace" Gage-mastered master of my > forthcoming album on Phthalo (pressed in the next couple of weeks), > I was so in awe at what he did with it, I wrote him an effusive > thank you email. He brought things out in the tracks that took > things to another level. They're my songs, so I should know them > pretty darn intimately, and yet he's > made me listen to them in a whole different light with his > mastering job. The only > album of mine that has impressed me this much at hearing the > difference between > what I submitted for mastering and the mastered version was hearing my > Tim Spurway-mastered Highest Common Denominator album on Piehead. > Greg can correct me if I'm wrong, but Tim mastered most if not > all of the Piehead > stuff. For me, Tim, like Mark, took what I thought was my best > work at the time > and took things to another level. > > If you can, I would always recommend mastering by someone else rather > than yourself. Sure, make what you submit for mastering sound as good > as you possibly can, but don't think that someone else's fresh ears can't > make your work sound even better. Your job as a producer is to produce > the best music you can. A masterer's job is to objectively take what you've > produced and make it sound as good as it possibly can. > > My CDN $0.02. > Have a good weekend, everybody. > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > http://myspace.com/andrewduke > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org -- _______________________________________________ Outgun.com free e-mail @ www.outgun.com Check out our Premium services - POP3 downloading, e-mail forwarding, and 25MB mailboxes! Powered by Outblaze