I have to second this. This is still the only way that I buy music. The
only time I've ever even used iTunes music store was to get Pedro
Infante's version of "Senderito de Amor" that was on the Our Lady of
the Assassin's soundtrack.
I too have noticed the disturbing trend of labels only releasing stuff
that their buddies made. I remember on Tigerbeat6's website, about 2
years ago, The demo policy read something like, "you can send it in,
but we really only release stuff that we and our friends make, so don't
bother". That is not a direct quote, but you get the idea.
But... on the other hand, I realize that these technologies are very
new; And all this is possibly an initial reaction to these new
abilities that the internet's give us. I hate to sound like a fortune
cookie, but I think that all this will level off in about 5 years; And
we'll begin to a new system emerge that has all these elements
integrated in it. And as for the labels only releasing their buddies;
There is a very wise, very old saying in my parts that goes, "Shit
roles downhill". haha
Cory
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http://clouds-out.myosound.com
On Jan 13, 2006, at 3:07 AM, David @ Audiobulb wrote:
quoted 4 lines I can "feel" your excitement in receiving packages of unsampled music
> I can "feel" your excitement in receiving packages of unsampled music
> - I have always bought that way too... sometimes because i have read a
> snippet of a review - but sometimes just because the packaging is so
> interesting and creative - you think the music will be too.....quoted 191 lines ----- Original Message ----- From: <Brian.Power@cso.ie>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Brian.Power@cso.ie>
> To: <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [idm] r.i.p. SMALL LABELS
>
>
>> I copy you on the "feeding the beast" near obsessional behaviour
>> inherent
>> in an mp3 players owners' day-to-day existence ; and I have previously
>> posted here as to the merits of digital music providers in hastening
>> the
>> demise of electronic/idm music by virtue, ironically, of its "try it
>> before
>> you buy it" music streaming services and ones apathy towards music
>> generally as a result this.
>>
>> Until I had recieved a gift of a 40 GB ipod last Christmas I was
>> receiving
>> the occasional box of CD delights from FE or other [insert mail order
>> shop
>> of choice] retaillers and labels every one or two months. Often I was
>> buying music completely blindly, as in I had never, ever heard it
>> before.
>> I'd often walked, drenched by the relentless Irish rain, for up to an
>> hour
>> to collect bulging packages from the Post Offices sorting office on
>> the
>> outskirts of town. I was like a child, on arriving home, who'd been
>> let
>> loose for a one minute sprint around a sweetshop, grabbing what
>> looked nice
>> on the eye and only sampling for the first time their assorted
>> flavours
>> afterwards, with a mixture of delight and disappointment. But most
>> often
>> delight.
>>
>> So I'd already had about 23 GB's of mp3's on my hard disk before I
>> got a
>> broadband connection last April... And I've about 2 GB's of space
>> left on
>> my 40GB iPod now.
>>
>> Yet I've only bought about 12 or 15 CD's since. It's all become
>> largely web
>> based downloads, whether it be from online digital music providers -
>> subscription (eMusic) or pay as you go (Bleep, Kompakt etc.) - right
>> down
>> to the hit and miss mp3 blog sites, label freebies, podcasts/mixes
>> etc.
>> Sure I've got some form of p2p ftp software on my 'puter aswell, but I
>> exercise extreme control over it's deployment for the download of
>> music,
>> UNLESS there's little or no other choice in sourcing the music
>> digitally
>> i.e. it isn't for sale on the web as an mp3. And I always first try
>> and pay
>> for downloads directly from the labels before hitting the big boy
>> providers.
>>
>> Does the instant gratification of immediate download and subsequent
>> appreciation match up to or equal the anticipation and appreciation of
>> receipt of mail order/store purchased goods ? Kinda...
>>
>> I do still intend to purchase hard copy releases. I do still intend to
>> purchase well encoded mp3's from labels or providers. But I'll
>> probably
>> rarely ever savour again the innocent delight, not to mention the
>> hour long
>> walk (I've since got wheels), over rain soaked streets in super
>> saturated
>> clothing, in picking up the latest treasure chest of mail order CD's
>> from
>> the post offices sorting office.
>>
>> Breathe in deeply this musty whiff of nostalgia people ; for these
>> are the
>> very things we have lost in the firewired-up broadband adulterated
>> digital
>> lifestyle revolution of today.
>>
>> But you could do a lot worse than to pick up Low either live, on disc
>> or
>> even on hard disk as an anecdotal antidote...
>>
>> np - Thuja "Pine Cone Temples"
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>> anyone thought about there being a connection between
>>> mp3 downloading and inability (by labels) to sale
>>> physical product ?
>>
>> yes and no. it depends on the people on the downloading side. i had
>> never
>> bought a LOW
>> album until i went to kranky's site and they had a free download of
>> "(that's how you sing)
>> amazing grace". after i heard it once i was looking up the album it
>> was on
>> and sending
>> kranky my money. i must have listened to it another time before i
>> got the
>> CD. same thing
>> happened with downloadable songs from calla and the walkmen.
>>
>> then again, i am not enamored of the mp3 format except as something to
>> stream on my
>> computer at work, to check out things in order to buy the "real"
>> release.
>> i want the other
>> tracks a song goes with, i want artwork, i want lyrics, i want
>> whatever the
>> artist has bundled
>> up with their music to offer it as a complete work. so to me an mp3
>> is not
>> satisfying in itself.
>> i do not own an ipod, nor do i intend to.
>>
>> for someone who does however, every song is just to feed the beast.
>> i know
>> people working
>> on getting a second ipod because their first one is now too small.
>> once
>> they start
>> accumulating tracks they can't stop - and they're not going to start
>> some
>> kind of file
>> management/backup system or (god forbid) delete anything (at least,
>> not on
>> purpose). i
>> think that mindset, coupled with an indifferent attitude towards
>> having
>> "the real release" and
>> perhaps a bit of crying poor, can lead to rampant downloading and
>> hoarding
>> of free tracks,
>> legal or not. but this is just a hypothesis, based loosely on
>> personal
>> observation. i know
>> millions of people actually pay to download, but i've never met one.
>>
>>
>> d.
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