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joshua twentythree
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Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:47:03 -0700 (MST)
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Re: [idm] indie killed the idm star?
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quoted 9 lines on the other hand, many electronic music writers and fans seem ready to> on the other hand, many electronic music writers and fans seem ready to > split off and name a > new genre every time a new instrument is added or beats are changed around > a bit. thus > rather than giving electronica/IDM a shot in the arm, the addition of > guitars simply created > yet another sub-genre for a weary public to assimlate or ignore - > "indietronica". united we > stand, divided we fall.
so... then could that be summed up as saying, "the people who like IDM killed IDM"? :) joshua. ....... sometimes always. http://ropeswingcities.com http://ropeswingcities.com/josh23 http://spacepiratemusic.com http://acre-c.com
quoted 73 lines ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: therealmxyzptlk@comcast.net > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:52:02 +0000 > >>> i totally agree. >>> indie rock killed idm in america. >>> discuss. >>> >>> -kiya >> >>Hmmm....idm (at least some of it) has possibly suffocated itself with >> redundancies and (in > some cases) indie has branched into that 'sound garden', picked some nice > flowers and > redecorated to make itself more interesting. > > > totally agree, jeff. i'm going to take that a step further and put a > finer point on it. > > indie rock, following in the footsteps of their patron saints radiohead > (though they were > never indie they seem to exude an indie-like spirit), incorporated IDM and > other electronic > influences and rejuvenated itself. in some cases, electronic acts brought > in indie rock > influences, with varying results both artistic- and sales-wise. > > the biggest success story is of course the postal service, who are the > second-biggest selling > act on sub pop after nirvana. yet despite all the music being done by > DNTEL's jimmy > tamborello electronically, for some reason TPS has been more > wholeheartedly embraced and > claimed as an indie rock breakthrough rather than an IDM/electronic one. > perhaps it's the > label and marketing, perhaps it's the poppy songs and vocals, but it also > comes back to the > insular nature of certain scenes. certainly some factions of indie rock > can be very snobby > and cultish about its most underground bands, keeping them a secret or > crying "sellout!" at > the earliest sign of mass acceptance (i.e. someone else has ever heard of > a band). but at > least the music seems a bit more potentially eclectic and inclusive of > various styles while still > basically being called "indie rock". > > on the other hand, many electronic music writers and fans seem ready to > split off and name a > new genre every time a new instrument is added or beats are changed around > a bit. thus > rather than giving electronica/IDM a shot in the arm, the addition of > guitars simply created > yet another sub-genre for a weary public to assimlate or ignore - > "indietronica". united we > stand, divided we fall. > > but actually, indie rock today is in just as much danger of suffocating > itself with redundancy, > its biggest and most frequent practicioners following all sorts of > unspoken rules of conduct > in their music and presentation. that sort of thing will hasten the > demise (or at least > dormancy) of any scene. > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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