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Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:49:27 -0700 (PDT)
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[idm] Re: open letter to pitchforkmedia and "indie IDM" fans
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I beg to differ about the Solvent comment. However you want to define the "resurgence of interest in 70's and 80's music" I highly doubt you're referring to a moment or period in time that predates 1997 (and your references to other "guilty parties" seem to confirm that). The first Solvent release came out on Suction in 1997. So, to say "IDM artists have followed suit in attempt to reclaim their "indie" fanbase by recreating the late 80's acid sound (such as the new Aphex material) and in some cases by actually reproducing mid 80's style synth pop (Solvent, for example)" is to malign the name of Solvent, whose work I enjoy very much and who I unabashedly defend as a fan. That first Solvent/Lowfish split sounds a fair bit like the most recent Suction output. I love Solvent's music (and a lot of Suction) because of that -- because of Solvent's obviously personal and unique vision of music, however derivative one might think it to be. Not a whole lot about it has changed in the past 8 years, which suits me fine. To any half-observant historian of modern electronic music (and by that I mean simply one who can pay attention in between bong packings) the idea that Solvent's music exists as it does to "reclaim" some "indie fanbase" is absurd in light of the facts. Just because the bandwagon roars by someone who's been walking on the path since before that bandwagon left the assembly line doesn't mean the pedestrian would appreciate the ride. Perhaps you were confused about the facts from the get-go, or simply pulled a name out of a hat along your quest to indict pitchfork. Either way, I think you owe Solvent an apology. Nick PS Reviews, biased or unbiased, are worthless to me. P2P does me one better by letting me describe the music to myself. I get all the word of mouth info I need here on this list, on others, and in the company of a few choice connoisseurs. --- chatham@m-laboratories.net wrote: <snip> Then, a resurgence of interest in 70's and 80's music led the way for IDM artists and ex-indie rockers alike to find "innovation" in replaying old cliches. Note that several of pitchfork-media's reviews reflect this attitude by deifying early 80's artists such as The Fall, Depeche Mode, New Order, Joy Division, and various New Wave acts. With the exception of indie sweethearts Sonic Youth, Pavement, and their ilk, the music of the 90's have been erased from the indie definition of "cool." IDM artists have followed suit in attempt to reclaim their "indie" fanbase by recreating the late 80's acid sound (such as the new Aphex material) and in some cases by actually reproducing mid 80's style synth pop (Solvent, for example). <snip> ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org