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steven roeder
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Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:29:41 -0600
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Re: [idm] about music and money
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wait a sec. am i reading this right? your saying you (as the online reseller) are going to be keeping 60% to 70% of the sale of a song. i was under the impression that a total of 70% would go to the label and the artist to split and if NO label was involved then the artist gets all 70%. this means you would get 30%. which is a lot compared to other companies. so i don't understand where it is you came up with this. cdbaby pays out 91% BTW. take a look at this link and start restructuring your business plan, because your not going to be up very long without doing so. http://cdbaby.net/dd?f=4 steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enaomi18" To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] about music and money Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:08:52 +0200 Thanks very much for your thoughts David. We share many of your sentiments, however I will explain our reasoning. The second option you refer to is what we are planning. An independant artist would get 30 cents of each sale, while a sale through a label would get 40 cents to split between the artist and label. The reasoning for this is to try to give the artist as high of a percentage as possible in either case although it would give them a higher profit to sell independantly than through a label depending on their agreement with their label. While it would seem most practical to just sell straight from the artist, in order to have a decently sized catalog and selection of already existing works, we still need to work with labels. I don't know how iTunes works their percentages out although I have heard some people complaining that they don't give enough to the artists. So, basically, what we are trying to do is find a balance where everyone is happy; the artists, the labels, and ourselves. This is why I am interested in what everyone thinks of these percentages. While that may be impossible to do (making everyone happy), we are most interested in compensating the artist fairly first. I'm hoping this makes sense! Naomi david@modernangel.org wrote: > > if i'm reading this right, it means 30c of each sale goes to the artist, and another 40c to the label. if i'm misreading it, it means an independant artist gets 30c, while an artist with a label gets 40c to split between them? i'm assuming it's the former, anyway... > > my first observation is that this is about the same as itunes, except the proportions are different. my primary question to this model, whether through them or you, is... what exactly is the label doing to justify getting the lion's share of the money? > > if you're distributing it, and this is for "independent" artists/labels, so it's not like people are picking up on any big corporate branding, then all i see the label doing is sitting in the middle soaking up money. do they give big advances to the artists to facilitate recording? no, they're a small independent label. do they give lots of marketing and promotion? no, they're a small independent label. do they distribute the records? well, maybe, by themselves, but under this model, you would be doing the distribution. > > this seems ridiculous to me, so much money is wasted on something that as far as i can see, has no relevance to creating the music, or getting it to people who will listen. fuck the label, contact artists directly through mediums like this, make sure they get the best return for their creativity that they can. > > as a sometime artist, i don't see the need for any intermediaries anymore. i can sell tracks myself with a website and paypal. i can get some more exposure by going on itunes, or another store. i see no need for a label in that scenario. > > as a consumer, i would rather know the artist is getting the bulk of the money, not that it's being decimated by a bunch of middlemen. > > david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org -- _______________________________________________ Outgun.com free e-mail @ www.outgun.com Check out our Premium services - POP3 downloading, e-mail forwarding, and 25MB mailboxes! Powered by Outblaze