human league. dignity of labor part 1-4
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--- dj fishead <fishead666@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 74 lines It's been spoken about a lot here, actually. I
> >It's been spoken about a lot here, actually. I
> came to IDM by way of
> >industrial. IDM owes some allegiance to industrial
> but only marginally,
> >imo. Except, perhaps, the aforementioned ebm sound
> or artists like Coil
> >and maybe even Clock DVA. Most "true" industrial
> like TG, SPK, Merzbow,
> >etc. are just too abrasive/dissonant compared to
> the sound of quote-unquote
> >IDM. Except for maybe Autechre's more atonal
> moments. I suppose
> >industrial was an influence, but IDM isn't a direct
> descendent.
>
> I think it would depend on which album you checked
> out.. as mentioned
> earlier, TG had a fair amount of melodic material
> that was overlooked - and
> if you subtract the effect of a hostile crowd, then
> there are some really
> great things. There's this idea that industrial is
> related to
> factory/machinery sounds - but the whole concept
> behind the label was to get
> people thinking about the music 'industry' as
> such... a factory that grinds
> out popstars. This is probably more true now than
> ever before. As far as
> 'true' industrial goes - Clock DVA's earliest
> material was released on
> Industrial Records (as was some of Richard H.
> Kirk's) - so I'm assuming
> you're refering to 'industrial' as the term was
> mistakenly applied, rather
> than how it was originally intended (as a statement,
> not a description).
>
> Clock DVA (and the numerous side projects of Newton
> - specifically those
> involving McKenzie) do merit special mention. Not
> so much with the jazzier
> material (or maybe the jazzier stuff *is* more
> important - especially in
> light of the importance of time signature play in a
> lot of idm. I'm not
> talking about Time Out... Thelonius Monk is what I'm
> driving at- sorry,
> tangent, back to the point...). Once you've reached
> the Buried Dreams-era
> things get very interesting (see: The Unseen, The
> Act [the instrumental
> version, in particular] and b-sides like Connection
> Machine and Sonology Of
> Sex)... TAGC's rhythmic contribution to Hafler
> Trio's Masturbatorium is
> really nice (and can be heard sans Annie Sprinkle
> on the Psychophysicists
> album). The bulk of these releases also feature
> some of the most absurdly
> detailed liner notes I've ever encountered...
>
> Can't believe I haven't mentioned Portion Control...
> the stuff they were
> doing 80-82 is damned impressive... Simulate Sensual
> might be the White
> Light/White Heat of the late 80s electronic scene.
> The kids at Hot Topic
> wouldn't know it, but the people making the music
> know.
>
>
>
>
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