John/Slackonomics wrote:
quoted 22 lines On Feb 28, 2005, at 7:43 AM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:> On Feb 28, 2005, at 7:43 AM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:
>
>>> In fact, I think Perry/Kingsley are more important to electronic
>>> music than even maybe the legendary Kraftwerk.
>>>
>> Nice for an obscure reference points in a thread, but c'mon - do you
>> really THINK so?
>
>
> Indeed, because not only did they precede Kraftwerk by a decade or so,
> but their music was extremely more elaborate to create. Some several
> miles of tape were painstakingly handspliced in order to get the
> "sampled" sound that we identify with so readily now (and can so
> easily recreate in seconds with modern samplers/computers).
>
> I give Kraftwerk major props, no doubt, but I feel that at very least
> Perry/Kingsley are as important. Especially, in their own unique way,
> to experimental electronic and idm. You could say that
> Perry/Kinglsey's music was, in some perverse fantasy-land form,
> proto-idm. Much the same that I consider Ryuichi Sakamoto's B2 Unit a
> proto-idm album, a good decade+ before IDM came around.
>
Again - you miss the thread by a mile : influence - not complexity. I
wouldn't disagree with you about anything you say, except when you
subsitute "importance" for "influence". Not quite the same thing. I
could argue that I knew of just about anyone doing whatever before it
became popular, but whe the topic is influence, one has to take an
aspect of scope into the picture. Perry/Kingsley just didn't have the
exposure THEN *or* now in comparison with Kraftwerk. Not even with
Sakamoto/YMO, who didn't have the exposure Kraftwerk did (and I would
argue that "Technodelic" is as IDM as B2 Unit).
If you want to take the thread somewhere else, fine. But changing horses
in mid-stream as a debate progresses usualy means the one you were on
was a loser.
jeff
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