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William Samuels
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Date:
Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:52:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: [idm] ...another mechanical piece of noise
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I have a pretty good amount of noisy/experimental stuff in my music collection, and I don't care for the "DSP wankery". I've heard it plenty and the novelty wore off a long time ago. I think some people use it to hide the fact that their tune is really boring in the first place. And why does most of this clattery dsp idm lack bass? Are most of these people lacking studio monitors, and mixing it down on crap headphones? --- Luis-Manuel Garcia <lgarcia@uchicago.edu> wrote:
quoted 67 lines I think part of this "I hate DSP wankery" depends on> I think part of this "I hate DSP wankery" depends on > what sort of ear > you have for noise. If noise is noise is noise to > you, then a lot of > heavily processed Max/DSP-produced stuff will > probably sound similar > and boring. On the other hand, if noise is just > unrecognized music to > you, then it's a lot more exciting. Mind you, some > of it still gives > me a headache.... > > Luis > > p.s. I've been listening to DAT Politics' "Tracto > Flirt" again and came > up with a new name for that sound: "post-digital > fauvism." You heard it > here first! (Now I just need somebody to declare it > "dead") > > On Jan 24, 2005, at 4:59 PM, graham miller wrote: > > > they said the same thing of drum machines when > they first emerged and > > infiltrated pop music in a > > serious way in the early eighties... "where's the > talent? the drum > > machine does all the work..." > > was a common comment overheard by many a bitter > drummer... and despite > > their initial fears, drum > > machines never put drummers out of work... > automation just opened up > > the sound and groove palette > > of music... music talent could now be measured in > new ways: sound > > design and programming became > > the criteria of the sublime - not the athleticism > intrinsic to > > acoustic performative instruments. > > ditto goes for reaktor and what not today... the > same ratio of crappy > > to sublime music is still > > in effect. always has been, always will. there's > just more music now. > > > > graham | intrepid traveller > > > > "Albers, Brian" wrote: > > > >> > >> How does the saying go?- "One man's garbage is > another man's > >> treasure" or something like that? > >> > >> now on- live Richard Devine. > >> > >> > >> I saw someone reference an idm artist's output as > >> "another mechanical piece of noise". I was just > >> talking with a friend about that. I'm sick of > tunes > >> that are just fucked up dsp/algorithmic > masturbation. > >> If that is all there is to the tune it's totally > >> boring.
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