Ahh, at last, we get to discuss the meaning of IDM again... Whew! It had
been a while..
Unfortunately, I think IDM STARTED as a grey zone, but to be honest, it is
something very difinite, and solid now. To me IDm is the Warp and warp
derived stuff (Reflex, Merk, Skam, etc etc). So, to say, it's clicky beats,
hiphop-ish based rhythum, and digtial noises... certainly this does go in a
few different directions, but when peopel say IDM to me, I think of a sound
that is, on the whole, quite homogenious.
Like I said, it used to be way more open ended, but I think it's quite
limited now. I don't know why it changes, maybe the availability of
software, maybe the bredth of the community itself, or mayeb the lack of
diversity in the community.. dunno, but I do think it's different now than 4
years ago for sure.
Just my 2 cents though...
Jason F
quoted 38 lines On 17 Dec 2004 at 18:11, Paul Thomas wrote:
>
>On 17 Dec 2004 at 18:11, Paul Thomas wrote:
>
> > I thought that idm is just a ghey label thought up by conceted Americans
> > who feel the need to categorize their tastes in some kind of self
> > important way. Over here in the UK if you use the words "Intelligent
> > Dance Music" people will generally look at you very strangely indeed and
> > if I'm honest, quite rightly too, I think... What makes certain music
> > more 'intelligent'?
>
>and later wrote:
>
> > Sorry mate, I call bullshit. The only other people I've ever heard
>using
> > the term is Americans, over the internet and I've been in plenty of
>places
> > where it would have been used. Also, the reply : "Oh we were being
> > ironic, didn't you know... <cue pitying glace>" is pretty poor.
>
>To leap at one's keyboard, a tad foamy at the mouth, and scold Americans
>for their use of a particular term while openly admitting the value UKians
>place on terminology (by virtue of their strange looks, "quite rightly
>too"), is, to me, the very definition of ironic.
>
>But to answer your question (what makes certain music more 'intelligent')
>we need only consider the negative case. If no one piece of music is more
>intelligent than another then Vivaldi = Brittney Spears. And that,
>friends, is the definition of absurd.
>
>--
>V,
>~Rick Strom
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