i'm talking about the technicalities of writing and reading about
NON-EXISTENT (so far) worlds and creating sounds which didn't exist
before the speaker played them. i'm not concerned at all with how
realistic a sci-fi, cyberpunk, space-opera, lsd-novel, etc is. in the
same way, sounds coming from a synthesizer are artificially-produced but
are not less real than those coming from a piano. you should not confuse
"real", "realistic", "artificial", and "synthetic".
see, when you play the guitar, the vibration is part of the qualities of
the strings and the wooden-box. you can actually hear the strings
vibrating, and the wooden box reinforcing the sound-wave. it's part of
nature that you're listening to. in contrast, the synthesizer doesn't
possess any good accoustic characteristics. it, however, can create
certain electromagnetic fields which provoke a speaker membrane to vibrate.
the worlds of william gibson don't exist in reality, do they? he didn't
go out, saw a guy with chips in his head and steel bones and said,
"dude, let's write a novel about that guy over there!" or maybe you can
make the argument that certain people can see directly in the future as
it is going to be? i doubt it.
anyway. maybe you should just fuck this topic, it became too theoretical.
dobri
Robert Feuchtl wrote:
quoted 93 lines in the same way, science-fiction reality happens in our minds for the>
>>
>> in the same way, science-fiction reality happens in our minds for the
>> first time when we read it. this reality is not one that the writers
>> saw in the real world. it is a complitely synthetically fabricated
>> world which the writers weave according to their own imagination and
>> then record into paper and harddisks in order our brains to give life
>> to it later.
>>
>> that's how electronic music and science-fiction are similar in
>> "artificiality" and that's probably one of the reasons why so many
>> people enjoy these genres.
>
>
> iґm sorry friend. canґt agree with that. the scifi I mostly always
> admired is sometimes a predicted future, yes but not necessarily
> artifial nature (jack vance is quite hippie / fantasy stuff in a
> sophisticated scientific way)... I am simply fascinated by the
> possibilties of the future (frank herbert, p.k. dick). they feedback
> backwards towards our life. sci fi was an hatred genre because ppl
> thought it has nothing to do with their lifes.. this made the authors
> of these times even more mad about writing real shit.. that, and the
> (re)discovery of drugs and psychology, zen-philosophy etc. in the
> early 60ies towards the late 60ies layed the ground for the golden age
> of scifi which definetly was in that era. and john brunner is a
> fucking genious of giving real life stories a dark and thrilling
> psychologic twist.. i donґt understand why nobody ever plundered his
> books for film. aynways, thats also scifi and absolutely not
> artificial...
>
> i think its just the slick black / silver polished spaceships and an
> affection for high-tec we have since getting paralyzed by THX1138,
> blade runner and alien ... :)
>
> is "stalker" scifi? is it artificial? :)
>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> well, that's for now,
>> dobri
>>
>>
>> "The best way to predict the future is to go (mentally) in the
>> direction in which our fears grow."
>
>
> yeah. but I totally agree with that... :)
>
>> "What some people perceive as the End of the World, for History is
>> just the sign that Future is coming."
>
>
> u should have told that to the dinosaurs ;)
>
>>
>>
>> seek wrote:
>>
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>>>> My own recommendations:
>>>> Jorge Luis Borges - anything, but particularly the collection called
>>>> Labyrinths, not sci-fi, but what the heck, deals with the infinite
>>>> Thomas Pynchon - has to be Gravity's Rainbow really.
>>>> Samuel R. Delaney - dhalgren, don't know where to start, just read it.
>>>> Jeff Noon - the earlier ones, particularly Vurt and Pollen.
>>>> Donald Barthelme - again not really sci-fi, but freaky enough to
>>>> include.
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Now ~that~ is a worthwhile reading list.
>>>
>>> seek
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