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Tue, 11 May 2004 12:31:15 -0700
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[idm] Re: cliche
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---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: max0666 <max0666@cox.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:07:42 -0500
quoted 16 lines you mean puppy, 242, and the like? whose flag are you saying they stole?>> you mean puppy, 242, and the like? whose flag are you saying they stole? >> TG? SPK? kraftwerk? >> i'd argue those 80's artists did not simply steal the work of the 70's >> pioneers, but >> turned it into something else, a morphing if you will. a bit more original >> than >> later cases of photocopying, although it is wrong to call it by the same name >> "industrial" like everybody does, but that's just another case of misnomers >> becoming popular. >> d. > >Argument validated...early on there was some interesting energy there, but >it morphed into a pierced up, grungy nightmare, that in essence >"photocopied" itself. it became a biblical epic where genesis begat, begat >begat....way too many children. and i don't mean P'Orridge, but you are what >you eat. a very limited diet......
yes, exactly. this is the case with a lot of genres that stick around too long and become complacent, as well as becoming a cottage industry in itself. more "product" must be made to sell, so it self-perpetuates, long after being artistically valid. the boundaries are policed intently, and any attempt to move outside the usual cliches are rewarded with deaf ears. the alternative is, of course, for more people to churn out more of the same, with perhaps very subtle refinements of style, or simply keeping up with updating technology. unfortunately, as the original complaint about proem illustrates (though i may still enjoy proem), this may be getting to be as much a problem in IDM as in EBM or goth or punk. once everyone in the world has heard of a genre, the next generation has their chance to react to it, and unfortunately, direct imitation is still the most prevalent form of flattery. but there will always be those out there making the attempt to "take it somewhere else" instead of just copying what they've heard. or at least coloring outside the lines. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org