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From:
William Samuels
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Glowdot Dot Com ,
Date:
Thu, 22 Apr 2004 01:32:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [idm] Re: [OT] Bush sucks and philippe-petit doesn't
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--- Glowdot Dot Com <rick@glowdot.com> wrote:
quoted 2 lines Russia absolutely relys on the US for financial aid> Russia absolutely relys on the US for financial aid > and yet boldly defied our will to invade Iraq.
Well first off you have to consider Russia (and France) have invested a lot of money in the Iraqi oil industry. It doesn't make a lot of sense to abandon all that time and money, just so America can grab the whole piece of the pie. Secondly, a majority of the populations in most if not all the eurasian countries were against the war. And third, there was never a credible case for the war presented. What credible evidence was shown that the threat was so imminent that the UN inspectors couldn't continue their work. War should be the last resort, not the first.
quoted 5 lines Sorry, pal, you have no idea what you are talking> Sorry, pal, you have no idea what you are talking > about. And allowing other > countries to have a say in the election of the US > president, or any other > high (or otherwise) office is utterly absurd.
It probably wouldn't matter anyway, because this next election is probably rigged like the last one. The new voting machines are being provided by a few companies and surprise surprise all the CEOs for the 3 or 4 companies are Republican, some of them are even Bush's rangers. http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/001684.php
quoted 6 lines As absurd as our attempts have been. The American> As absurd as our attempts have been. The American > people need to make up > their minds. Sadly the American left (of which I am > a die hard member) have > never in US history sounded so goddamned ignorant as > they have over the past 3.5 years.
To be honest, I don't think the other side sounds any better. In fact they keep tripping up over spun stories. At least Rush Limbaugh has an excuse he is a drugs addict.
quoted 2 lines * Bush is a fool and the most devious, engenious> * Bush is a fool and the most devious, engenious > conspirator of all time. Simultaneously.
I've never heard anyone call Bush engenious. A fool, yes. Jon Stewart of the Daily Show once said that he doesn't think Bush is stupid, he thinks Bush must think the American people are stupid the way he talks to us.
quoted 1 line * Bush is a Hitler, and worse than Saddam.> * Bush is a Hitler, and worse than Saddam.
There are always extremes to both sides of the spectrum. I don't think the neocons speak for the whole republican party. The Bush/Hitler reference had to do with posters at a antiwar rally that the press decided to pick up on. I certainly wouldn't define the position of the opposition based on solely on posters.
quoted 1 line * "We're glad Saddam is gone, but....."> * "We're glad Saddam is gone, but....."
Yes, the plus side is Saddam is gone, but we also have to ask at what price did we pay for that. The war is averaging $4.7 billion a month, we've lost over 700 soldiers, killed over 10,000 civilians, we are stuck in a quagmire, no WMDs were found, the US's reputation is seriously in the toilet, and there doesn't seem to be any exit strategy.
quoted 2 lines * Impeach Bush! (by Internet petition? by placing> * Impeach Bush! (by Internet petition? by placing > ads in your local paper? Huh?)
Wishful thinking
quoted 7 lines The Constitution explains impeachment in one> The Constitution explains impeachment in one > paragraph. It would take about > a minute and a half to know everything you need to > know to about > impeachment, and yet people spend MONTHS trying to > impeach a man who has not committed an impeachable > offense.
Well if you think lying about a blowjob is an impeachable offense. Then lying to the people to get us into a war (to enrich the oil companies from your home state) ought to be an impeachable offense as well.
quoted 8 lines JUST THIS WEEK, for the FIRST TIME,> JUST THIS WEEK, for the FIRST TIME, > someone THINKS he MIGHT have committed an > impeachable offense in illegally > diverting funds meant for Afghanistan to the Iraq > offense. That's this > week, but people have been screaming "Impeach!" > since January of 2001. What > the hell is everyone talking about?
There is a lot of fishy stuff regarding the 2000 elections. I could go into detail but it's late for me
quoted 4 lines Please remember, if you are from a country other> Please remember, if you are from a country other > than the US, your leaders absolutely suck at our > money teat so they will follow the US even if they > tell you something different.
That's classy.
quoted 4 lines Then the rest of the world needs to do something> Then the rest of the world needs to do something > about their piss poor leadership instead of waiting > for us to do it for them, then decrying us as > tyrants and occupiers when we do.
I don't remember the rest of the world asking for war. Maybe I missed that newsclip __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25? http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org