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Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:44:18 -0500
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Re: [idm] trip hop vs pop rap
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"Greg Baker" <vacationtheory@yahoo.com> added:
quoted 14 lines now a side comment on what k.h. actually listens to. maybe i should> > >now a side comment on what k.h. actually listens to. maybe i should > > >try asking him, but in his interviews i can never tell if he is >> >serious. he once said that he wanted to push the darker side of >> >jazz like alice coltrane, and another time proclaimed his love for >> >50 cent. so maybe folktronica is a subgenre of jazz and rap. just >> >kidding. >> >> i don't think that's too far off in the case of four tet. "rounds" >> sound more like abstract trip hop than IDM. >> >i agree that four tet could be categorized as trip hop, but isnt trip hop >just a hip hop beat with trippy stuff going on? i know its an >oversimplification, but when i listen to portishead tricky and massive >attack i dont see any connection with alice coltrane and pop rap music.
well, pop rap has grown is such a different direction than old school hip-hop, which is where the trip hop beats are coming from. rap that's on mtv is more like just looped r&b records with talking instead of singing, sometimes they even have singing choruses. but portishead and massive attack and even four tet probably plumbed the same used record bins for 70's records with drum breaks they could turn into beat foundations. as for whether k.h. is serious about what he says, who knows, but even if he is, just because his music is inspired by one thing doesn't mean that's where it ends up. and if one of those inspirations is 50 cent, i think we should be grateful of that. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org