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Sat, 28 Feb 2004 00:37:20 -0500
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Re: [idm] folktronica
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Greg Baker <vacationtheory@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 11 lines e.g., (totally fictional here!) kieran hebden was listening to the>e.g., (totally fictional here!) kieran hebden was listening to the >likes of black dog and two lone swordsmen and influenced by it, but >created his own thing by adding folksy samples and pastoral melodies. > >i dont know about all this. i feel like it's almost irrelevant what >he was listening to, even though i will talk about it in a second. >i feel what you're saying, but i also think that, e.g., i am >directly inspired by everything from ovuca to hendrix to art blakey >to beethoven to esem to autechre to outkast, and when i am thinking >about all these influences when i make a track the end result is >that is sounds NOTHING LIKE ANY OF THEM.
sure, and i agree with that, that's certainly as it chould be. it was just a way of trying to give an example of direct influence or lineage that would create a subgenre.
quoted 4 lines so in summary, i think whether or not folktronica is a subgenre of>so in summary, i think whether or not folktronica is a subgenre of >IDM really depends on different criteria. for example, although >maybe not everyone will agree, i find four tet to be very danceable >when i see him live, but are there any danceable tracks on apropra't?
well, this comes back to the debate whether IDM actually needs to be danceable to be IDM. i think not. it's more like rhythms tham you dance to in your head, but if you tried to use your feet, you'd trip and fall.
quoted 6 lines now a side comment on what k.h. actually listens to. maybe i should>now a side comment on what k.h. actually listens to. maybe i should >try asking him, but in his interviews i can never tell if he is >serious. he once said that he wanted to push the darker side of >jazz like alice coltrane, and another time proclaimed his love for >50 cent. so maybe folktronica is a subgenre of jazz and rap. just >kidding.
i don't think that's too far off in the case of four tet. "rounds" sound more like abstract trip hop than IDM. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org