I've always felt it to be a unique balance of the two. Look back at "pop"
history, and there are so many brilliant moments as far as pushing limits,
preconceived notions, etc. Look at Pet Sounds, that album was incredible
production-wise, and Brian Wilson spent hours experimenting with
post-production techniques, etc. Anything Phil Spector did I feel was
experimental techniques applied to pop. He invented his own electronics for
processing even! Even up to current music, Bjork feels as though her music
is just pop. What Radiohead is doing is definately experimental, despite
what some feel are moxed results.
In idm, artists are constantly taking clues from pop culture, samples of a
mainstream rapper, vocals, guitars, etc. Much of this music is still in 4/4
time, has clear bridges, intros, etc. Most of us came from an indie rock,
hardcore, punk background, and alot of that shows. My wife and I find it so
funny when we see people that we knew from old Fugazi and hardcore shows
turn up when Plaid or Funstorung come into town.
I think that some poeple just to define experimental as "challenging" rather
than the far greater reaching tterm that it is.
jpb
quoted 24 lines IS IDM AN EXPERIMENTAL GENRE, OR JUST ANOTHER GENRE OF POPULAR MUSIC?
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> > > IS IDM AN EXPERIMENTAL GENRE, OR JUST ANOTHER GENRE OF POPULAR MUSIC?
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>Can't it be both?
>
>well, between your response and rolands response about IDM's hommage to
>funk, jazz, disco, rock, and what not, i suppose idm is like
>experimental popular music in a way, not unlike indie and imo, words which
>also keep coming up on this list. i think that's just the reality of the
>situation, even though i think ideally for me IDM would embrace pop
>experimentalism in a way that was more about creating music that sounds
>good in completely unconventional ways, thus stressing the experimental
>aspect of it, even though the record would sound like popular music. for
>example, i really liked syndrone's use of his guitar at the 404404 show
>a few months ago, because he just kept hammering on with the chord
>positions and all you could hear were these beautiful, ethereal,
>orchestral-yet-undeniably-electronic swellings, and you bet i went nuts
>when he
>finally dropped the beat on that one. i was thinking, hell yeah, that's
>what it's all about. like if you could make a hot beat by rubbing a
> contact mic over a crocodile skeleton, i would like that music to fall
>under the category of IDM.
>
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