hey.. i play as digitonal. sometimes as dtnl.
i normally have a full band, but lately i've been doing some laptop shows on
my own.
i've just got into Ableton Live which is blowing me away. truly an amazing
bit of software. it's allowing me to play my arrangements as an instrument,
instead of being tied to a timeline as i normally play. i've been remixing
stuff on the fly and using plugins like supatrigger to mash my beats up.
the nord micromodular is a new thing for me as well, but i like it's sound.
basically i need everything to fit into a laptop bag and this does the trick
nicely. i'll be feeding it's output through an electribe ES1, mostly to use
the effects, cause the nord is a little dry for what i do.
i reckon that what's coming out of the speakers is the most important thing
at the end of the day. I think i'm getting the balance right these days.
some of the stuff i was playing with this week in Live was inspiring. i'll
be giving it a run in new york in a week or so so i'll let you know how it
goes.
that RS box looks interesting - what's the story?
----- Original Message -----
From: "bobule" <bobule@partyvibe.com>
To: "::dtnl::" <dtnl@digitonal.com>
Cc: "Aaron D Meyers" <adm226@nyu.edu>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows
quoted 21 lines hey what name do you play under?
> hey what name do you play under?
>
> the modular thing is an interesting dilemma for me, i have an RS
> intergrator (http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk) and i cant decide if i
> should use it to process my soudns live (i have 4 seperate filters for it)
> or if i should use it as a crazy noise/fx machine..
>
> the problem being these is no way i could repatch my modular halfway thru
> a gig! ah well the joys of analogue i guess..
>
> but back to the laptop thing, it is hard being a laptop band, either on
> your own or with others its still hard to get a good balance of 'making
> sure it will sound great' and 'making sure you are doing enough for it to
> be considered live'.. i hate bands that mime to dat or just press play but
> at the same time i hate rubbish sounding acts more....
>
> whadda ya gonna do eh?
>
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, ::dtnl:: wrote:
>
> > funny you should mention that, kraked was one of the best gigs i've
done.
quoted 2 lines really attentive crowd and a chilled environment. it felt like you were
> > really attentive crowd and a chilled environment. it felt like you were
> > playing in someones front room, with 40 or so people coming down from
the
quoted 15 lines night before and digging what you were doing.
> > night before and digging what you were doing.
> >
> > further more in the co-incidence stakes, mixing tracks with ableton and
> > playing along with a nord micro modular and es1, is exactly how i'll be
> > playing live from next week, whenever i play without the band.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bobule" <bobule@partyvibe.com>
> > To: "Aaron D Meyers" <adm226@nyu.edu>
> > Cc: "::dtnl::" <dtnl@digitonal.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows
> >
> >
> > >
> > > i think this is partly what makes kraked (www.kraked.co.uk reading,
uk)
quoted 2 lines work so well, as a
> > > work so well, as a
> > > showcase of crazy electronica its really nice to be able to sit on
comfy
quoted 1 line beanbags, watch random images on multiple projectors and really listen
> > > beanbags, watch random images on multiple projectors and really listen
to
quoted 3 lines the act thats playing..
> > > the act thats playing..
> > >
> > > as for the live laptop thing, im hoping to enhance my live shows by
taking
quoted 2 lines my modular synth and a few other bits of kit to aid the live element
> > > my modular synth and a few other bits of kit to aid the live element
> > > whilst mixing my tracks in ableton.. hopefully this should provide
some
quoted 7 lines geeky entertainment!
> > > geeky entertainment!
> > >
> > > ahh to rock or not to rock.. i guess its all down to the crowd/venue
> > >
> > > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Aaron D Meyers wrote:
> > >
> > > > so who are the most successful idm/laptop performers in pulling off
a
quoted 5 lines good live show?
> > good live show?
> > > >
> > > > mouse on mars stand out in my mind.
> > > >
> > > > on the other hand, here in new york, we've got prefuse 73, plaid,
and
quoted 1 line luke vibert coming through this week and i'm gonna sit them all out.
> > luke vibert coming through this week and i'm gonna sit them all out.
i've
quoted 1 line seen them all "live" and was bored to tears. honorable mention to plaid
> > seen them all "live" and was bored to tears. honorable mention to plaid
for
quoted 3 lines their video stuff though.
> > their video stuff though.
> > > >
> > > > a lot of the time, at least at the more ambient shows, being able to
sit
quoted 1 line on the ground makes all the difference. i recall a hrvstaski (or some
> > on the ground makes all the difference. i recall a hrvstaski (or some
alias
quoted 1 line thereof) show at the knitting factory several years ago where there was
> > thereof) show at the knitting factory several years ago where there was
some
quoted 1 line unspoken decision by the crowd to just sit on the ground in the main
> > unspoken decision by the crowd to just sit on the ground in the main
space
quoted 1 line and all of a sudden a show that would've driven me nuts if i'd been on
> > and all of a sudden a show that would've driven me nuts if i'd been on
my
quoted 54 lines feet the entire time was immensely enjoyable.
> > feet the entire time was immensely enjoyable.
> > > >
> > > > -Aaron
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "::dtnl::" <dtnl@digitonal.com>
> > > > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2003 9:49 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows
> > > >
> > > > > listen to geoff - he speaks the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > this shit is always about the vibe of the place. our best shows
> > > > > have been
> > > > > in places receptive to what we're doing, and suitable for our
> > > > > music, with a
> > > > > clear sound system and an up for it audience. and this goes for
> > > > > whether we
> > > > > were a full band or just me and a laptop playing off traktor. no
> > > > > amount of
> > > > > gimmiks, visuals, costumes, cute singers or otherwise is going to
> > > > > make a
> > > > > damn bit of difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > that is all.
> > > > >
> > > > > andy.:
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "cutups" <cutup@andythepooh.com>
> > > > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:41 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] laptop shows
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > In my experience, it really depends on the audience
> > > > > > more than the performer. I've seen highly "performance"
> > > > > > based shows that were horrible, as well as shows that
> > > > > > were nothing but music being played back that were great.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems like kids who would specifically be into "idm"
> > > > > > skew towards some kind of performance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But personally i just want to hear something i haven't
> > > > > > heard before, played on a good soundsystem. If
> > > > > > performance works for the artist, than thats good too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - geoff
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "chthonic" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>
> > > > > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [idm] laptop shows
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i know this has been brought up before, but i wanted to throw
the
quoted 3 lines question into sharper relief.
> > > > > > > question into sharper relief.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how much do visuals and/or performer action/interaction mean
to
quoted 4 lines you as an audience member?
> > > > > > > you as an audience member?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i ask because the increasing amount of music being created on
> > > > > > > laptops inevitably brings up the question of what to do live.
the
quoted 5 lines most valiant and effective effort i recall was seeing
> > > > > > > most valiant and effective effort i recall was seeing
> > > > > styrofoam open
> > > > > > > for the notwist. in addition to his laptop, he had a
> > > > > keyboard, a
> > > > > > > mixer, some effects, and he sang. i bought his CD right after
he
quoted 7 lines played.
> > > > > > > played.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > however, other people i've seen have been pretty boring, and
> > > > > > > though the music has been good, i find myself wishing i was
> > > > > > > elsewhere, listening to their CD. some such artists respond
> > > > > to the
> > > > > > > live challenge by attempting to make small motions or faces
that
quoted 5 lines let us know something is happening, treating us to unreleased
> > > > > > > let us know something is happening, treating us to unreleased
> > > > > > > material or exclusive "live remixes", or simply playing really
> > > > > loud.> > but to me all these things are miniscule. there isn't
> > > > > much to see,
> > > > > > > to connect with as far as what the artist has put into it.
even
quoted 3 lines projected visuals can only do so much.
> > > > > > > projected visuals can only do so much.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > does anybody else care about this? or are you content to go
to
quoted 1 line electronic music shows for things like community, higher
> > > > > > > electronic music shows for things like community, higher
volume,
quoted 4 lines exclusive merchandise, different mixes?
> > > > > > > exclusive merchandise, different mixes?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > perhaps the problem is attempting to judge electronic music
> > > > > > > performances by "rock show" standards. however, they
frequently
quoted 1 line play in the same venues, and are both put up on stage as
> > > > > > > play in the same venues, and are both put up on stage as
though
quoted 62 lines there's something to see.
> > > > > > > there's something to see.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > d.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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