I know this is like... soooooooooo last week, but for anyone who didn't see it:
http://msl1.mit.edu/furdlog/images/metallica_hack_archive.html
Also, this kind of reminds me of the whole Vanilla Ice defending himself in court about how the bass thing in Ice Ice Baby was different from the one in Queen/Bowie's Under Pressure.
Derek, I'd have to disagree with you that using a familiar (even popular) melody only amounts to a cheap attempt at cashing in on the original creators popularity. Whether sampling, copying or just intentionally trying to evoke someone else's sound, you're making a reference to something and odds are, the person listening already has associations and ideas related to what you're sampling/copying/evoking so it goes beyond simply being a rip-off artist. It could be Carl Stalling cutting and pasting 2 or 3 bars of other peoples music into his warner brother cartoon scores or it could be Jimmy Page being a show off and inserting a bit of a Bach fugue (or whatever it is on that new live CD) into a guitar solo, but these kind of things boil down to something more complex than simply stealing someone elses shit. Umm.. yea... I'm not sure where I'm going with this so I'll just pass the mic or whatever.
-Aaron
np White Zombie - Astro Creep 2000 blah blah (rawk!)
Eggytoast said:
quoted 51 lines Regarding using a sample of a song, the defining moment in court,
> Regarding using a sample of a song, the defining moment in court,
> in my
> opinion, is whether the sample is recognizeable to the point of
> obviously
> stealing. In other words, is it wrong if I use a similar synth
> sound or
> bass? No, of course not. If I use a melody in full from a
> popular
> album? Well, yeah, because I'm using the popularity of that album
> to
> further the success of that particular track.;
>
> an album full of mixes of popular songs is doing exactly that --
> using all
> popular songs to sell itself. If they used crappy songs, no one
> would buy
> it, and if the songs were unrecognizeable, it wouldn't matter as
> no one
> would be able to file the lawsuit clearly anyway.
>
> >Like most matters with copyrights, its a complicated issue
> without any
> >solid answer.
>
> i think it depends on how much of a dumbass one is when creating
> one's
> music. Ape someone and don't give them credit> invest in
> lawyerproof
> pants. Ape someone and no one can tell> how could they truly
> prove it in
> court that it's their sample and not someone else performing
> something
> similar but different and *then* mangled? Ape someone and ask
> kindly for
> permission> possibly giving them some dough or head to satisfry them.
>
> the choice is yalls
>
> derek
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