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From:
Brett Dietsch
To:
Roman Sturm
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Date:
Sat, 5 Apr 2003 10:21:21 -0500
Subject:
Re: [idm] Ripping question
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On Saturday, April 5, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Roman Sturm wrote:
quoted 1 line Maybe this is a so called "self-fulfilling prophecy" ?> Maybe this is a so called "self-fulfilling prophecy" ?
in this thread, we have seen: opinions that state that mp3's suck. examples of how you can truly see how mp3's suck. technical information backing up that, yes, mp3's do suck. and a whole lot of people saying "i cant tell the difference" i shall now give real-world examples that you, YES YOU KIDS, can try at home! zero your eq's first. *avoiding rant stating the intent of musicians for you to listen to stuff as they mix them to begin with* --- autechre: cichli a) original cd all sounds are pretty equalized. no sound takes the foreground. its a general "wall of sound" thing. b) mp3 percussion definitely takes the foreground. the dootdootdoot synth piece sounds overcome by the percussion, and the airy background melody sounds muffled and far off. coil vs elph: philm #1 a) original cd nice low ends, rumbling droning thick bass, squealing high ends. b) mp3 note the distinct lack of bass depth, and a chop of the high-end spectrum. download: seven plagues a) original cd distinct clarity of sounds, no blending of tones b) mp3 lots and lots of muffling. the swish noise on every first and third beat starting around the beginning and continuing till about 1:12 sounds _completely_ different. every time a low end and high end sound are played at the same time, they blend causing weird intra-sound static. --- these were encoded at 192/44/stereo. they sound the same with itunes, mplayer, winamp, etc. now, encode some venetian snares at 128 and listen to the difference. its.. well.. pretty fucking drastic. no low end, tinny high end, and a rather am sounding midrange. dont get me wrong, mp3's are a neat portable music format. the only thing keeping me from getting an ipod or something is finances, and i burn cd's for myself when i go on road trips, but to say the sound quality is comparable is pretty silly. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org