Josh Steiner said:
quoted 4 lines now, see, thats odd how differently we react. i'm not a proponent of> now, see, thats odd how differently we react. i'm not a proponent of
> dsp-fuckery for dsp-fuckery's sake, but i do love some seriously
> irritating shit like ae/mike pardinas/tom jenkenson but only really
> when they creates an emotional space/progression with their
fuckery.
I'm the same way, for the most part. It's no fun just hearing someone
run through some plugins (and as someone who has fun making
music, I tend to hear specific effects a bit more (at least, more than I
used to)), but it's cool when you don't notice the tricks and it all just
gels together.
quoted 3 lines for instance, i just can't stand kid606 and his pals, their tunes just> for instance, i just can't stand kid606 and his pals, their tunes just
> feel like joe satriani with a laptop oif you know what i mean.
> whereas my limited experience with brothemstates (the track's jak
got
quoted 1 line stuck, qtio, adozenaday in particular) really moved me, much more> stuck, qtio, adozenaday in particular) really moved me, much more
so
quoted 1 line than 99% of this sub-genre has done for years.> than 99% of this sub-genre has done for years.
I definitely felt that Qtio was a step above the DSP for DSP's sake, but
compared to the stuff I had heard of his earlier, it sounded like he was
trying to branch out into new territory but wasn't entirely sure where he
was headed. That can lead to cool stuff sometimes, but it can also
sound meandery. I expect EPs to be a little less fluid than albums
(oddly enough, considering one's smaller and should be easier to
keep a solid concept with compared to the other), but Qtio was all over
the map. The first half of the first track was cool, and he was doing
some cool stuff, but he never let the track pick up speed on its own. I
always felt him lording over it, fiddling with it in an attempt to make it
do tricks and play with the listener, instead of letting it run around and
play. He does it elsewhere on teh EP, too.
That's one of the things that I've always liked about Autechre tracks,
and other artists that are in the realm of more "abstract" idm -- they
make tracks seem to 'come alive' instead of just putting some sounds
together. Compare Gantz Graf, which has a ton of weird stuff
seemingly shoved into it but it doesn't sound like two blokes fiddling
with a computer -- it sounds like a piece of music, fully realized, and it
follows a progression that really fits with itself.
There were certainly good tracks on Qtio, but for most of it there was
definitely a presence of some guy with his hand in the middle of the
tracks, throwing stuff around to see what sticks. Sometime stuff stuck
and it was great, but there were plenty of times where something hit
the wall, slid to the floor, and left a big slimetrail on its way down, too.
quoted 1 line speaking of, i'm still more wowed by ae with every release, they> speaking of, i'm still more wowed by ae with every release, they
manage
quoted 1 line to keep going at their own speed pushing their sound ahead...> to keep going at their own speed pushing their sound ahead...
maybe
quoted 2 lines they dont utterly change their sound with every release like some> they dont utterly change their sound with every release like some
> people seem to want, but innovation does not nessesarily mean
tearing
quoted 1 line down the past. personally i'm very impressed by how they have> down the past. personally i'm very impressed by how they have
managed
quoted 4 lines to mix consistancey and progression across a whole decade while> to mix consistancey and progression across a whole decade while
> remaining pertinent, very very few artists ever achieve this. i
> really dont think any other artist has managed to continue to hold my
> attention for so long.
Same here. It's weird thinking of each release as an autechre release
in anything more than simple namesake. They all *fit*, sure, but the
way most artists work, the sound stays similar and if they do
something drastically different, they come up with a new name for
themselves and try to fit the image around that. Autechre have simply
been pushing their own envelope and you can always tell its them,
despite each album sounding like an entity on its own. I certainly have
favorites, mind, but I've always found it amazing how they're able to do
such different things consecutively and do them so well. They've never
made their tracks sound drowned in technology -- they've always given
them ample breathing room -- which I think really helps.
derek
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