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JoAnn
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Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:33:44 -0800 (PST)
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Re: [idm] boc
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if you want a good read, I suggest reading Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" very profound book in terms of skeptical thinking and how to see through these flim-flams that others try to present supposedly through a "scientific" point of view. Although I dont know about Wilson or his numerology stuff, it sounds like the sort of thing, I would start out skeptical, do some research, experiment and then decide if it works, rather than go in completely openminded and be converted to some mumbo-jumbo which just gives you broad statements that could apply to anyone, ie. horoscopes --- Warren's Rectum <idmlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 70 lines Quoting Chispas De Muerte <generentropy@yahoo.com>:> > > >Quoting Chispas De Muerte <generentropy@yahoo.com>: > > > contain 23 tracks!The satanic mason in me loves > this. > > > The 90's were all about hidden tracks, the new > > > millinium is all numerology trickery! 2003 is > here > > > folks, better read up on your Robert Anton > Wilson! > > > >While that crap is good for a quick cheap laugh, it > takes forever to read, > >and > >is quite a distraction from actual reality... > > I'm nearly finished with Wilson's 'Cosmic Trigger', > and though this is my > first(of hopefully many) literary experience(s) in > these type of ideas, I'm > almost certain that one of the main themes presented > by Wilson and his > colleagues is that reality is relative. So much so > that you can choose or > control it through a reporgamming of your > perceptions. > > >It's even more insidious because > >while you're reading it and "getting" all the > references, you're under the > >illusion that you're better off for avoiding the > usual mainstream > >distractions, > >while instead all you've done is accepted an > alternate dosage of the same > >cultural opiate... > > > > I'm not sure if I understand you here...you're > saying that the ideas > presented by Wilson and his ilk are just something > else to believe in, or no > more relevent than other religous denominations or > belief systems. By > 'cultural opiate' I just assume you make reference > to religion. If that is > the point you're trying to make, I would personally > have to disagree, > although technically I suppose you're right. The > difference I see, or at > least the factors which lead me towards this > 'belief' system rather than > others, is that it's based on non-belief. To quote > Wilson himself 'Belief > is the death of intelligence', and from what I've > grasped from 'Cosmic > Trigger' the only thing Wilson truely 'believes' in > is the development and > advancement of personal and scientific > understanding. The Numerology sutff > is a bit hard to swallow, but I think Wilson takes > it in support of Jung's > collective consciouness, or 'syncronicities'. I'm a > bit lost when it comes > to these matter, but thats why I'm so excited to get > hold of more literature > on the subject. Anyway, err, sorry for spouting off > like that. > Nick > >
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