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EggyToast
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Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:03:27 -0500
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Re: [idm] Downloading music
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At 05:43 PM 1/18/2003 -0600, you wrote:
quoted 13 lines Would you buy a book you knew nothing about?> > > Would you buy a book you knew nothing about? > > > > Nobody expects you to buy music YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. > > Much of the benefit of this very IDM list is to talk about the music, > > get other people's views and read reviews (or ASK). My experience > > with this list is that if I ask for opinions, I readily get lots of > > clear and lucid mails which help me form my own picture of whether I > > might or might not like the album discussed based on other people's > > descriptions. > >Really, am I the only one that buys music based on people's recommendations >without even hearing it? I can read a review of something and buy it based >off that. I'm rarely disappointed.
I used to. And I ended up with a lot of mediocre music, because there's always someone around to recommend something. That, and the descriptors used aren't very indicative of entire albums. Unlike a movie, albums can have a broad range of changeup during their 40-80 minutes, and saying "pretty, nostalgic melodies" doesn't describe whether the beats are chaotic, or cut up on one track but housey on the rest, or if those pretty, nostalgic melodies are samples or deep synthesis or boring synth presets or chopped up home recordings. For example, when I say "I like some aesop rock, can anyone else recommend things like that?" I get things like Cannibal Ox and anti-pop consortium, which may be cool hip hop, but the guys sound either horribly nasally and grating (cannibal ox) or have no flow (anti-pop). Something that Aesop Rock has in spades, in my opinion. That sort of recommendation scheme is rampant on the list (and other places of course). Music is related to other music in such weird terms that, of course, work just fine in each individual's head, but certainly loses something in the translation from "I think they're similar" to "You should like both, since they have this thing in common." Whether that's something that the other person will even notice or listen for is usually forgotten (understandable, though, since it's impossible to know everyone's organizational and listening scheme). It's like hearing someone say "it sounds like Aphex Twin," forgetting that Aphex Twin had stuff that ranged from Analog Bubblebath to Pancake Lizard (isn't that just the best track? heh). oh well. So I usually rely on a few songs downloaded before I buy an album. It's usually pretty easy to find a few tracks from an album, and you don't even need to hear the full songs. Just a bit to see if what you've been seeing everyone talk about is something that actually pans out on the album. Like, I was really interested in Vladislav Delay for a bit, but I downloaded some of his other projects, and the "house" element that everyone was talking about was certainly apparent. Enough so that I simply said "ok, I like this album, I'll just keep this one and be happy with it on its own" :D derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- coming soon: eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org