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Thomas Millar
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Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:56:31 -0500
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Re: [idm] Downloading music
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It's Saturday morning and I don't watch cartoons, so: on 1/18/03 10:00 AM, Z Moser at roachgod69@hotmail.com wrote:
quoted 3 lines 1. Almost everyone I know that makes or promotes music in anyway has a> 1. Almost everyone I know that makes or promotes music in anyway has a > day job, and makes a net total of zero dollars on their music. They all make > music because they love music.
1. Nearly all the albums I have purchased with the exception of a very few are by people who perform and record music for a living, or attempt to. But yeah, the people I KNOW all have day jobs - funny that! Of course none of them would ever DREAM of making enough money from music that they could QUIT doing SHITTY day jobs - that would be some kind of HORRIBLE CAPITALIST EVIL!
quoted 2 lines 1a. The reasons behind this are many. The current system in place to> 1a. The reasons behind this are many. The current system in place to > distribute and promote music is one of the main problems though.
1a. Vague muttering
quoted 1 line 2. In the current system people, for the most part, buy hype, not music.> 2. In the current system people, for the most part, buy hype, not music.
2. Then they come home, put it in the CD player, and say 'WTF? This isn't HYPE! This is like a song I heard on the radio! GOD DAMMIT!!'
quoted 1 line 3. The ability to download music does 2 things.> 3. The ability to download music does 2 things.
quoted 3 lines 3a. It relatively levels the playing field. The bedroom producer, or> 3a. It relatively levels the playing field. The bedroom producer, or > garage band can now reach as many people as Britney Spears. Word of mouth > becomes more powerful than it has ever been in the history of man.
3a. This is a nice theory. But somehow I have failed to discover the P2P network where this is true. And what's the advantage of reaching so many millions of people if none of them gives enough of a shit to pay for the privilege?
quoted 4 lines 3b. It ups the anty. With so many artist out there to choose from no> 3b. It ups the anty. With so many artist out there to choose from no > longer can individuals rely on hype such as paid off reviewers, huge > marketing schemes, and a few songs played on the radio or video station. The > artists have to, as they say, shit or get off the pot.
3b. So now everyone has to choose based on -here we go- FREE REVIEWS ON FREE WEBSITES! WITH FREE PIRATE RADIO! etc. etc. THANK GOD THERE'S SO MANY FUCKING DEVOTED HOBBYISTS OUT THERE SUPPORTING MY NEED TO NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING EVER EXCEPT THE CABLE MODEM because hey dude guess what I got a day job I don't have time to listen to all this crap myself
quoted 7 lines 4. Redistribution of wealth, and toppling of corporate hierarchies. A> 4. Redistribution of wealth, and toppling of corporate hierarchies. A > negative side effect for some is this will lower the amount of money coming > in. This is a natural side effect of a market growing becoming wider. People > have more to choose from so they can more easily satisfy their personal > taste. On the other hand many of the bedroom producers that never expected > to make a cent off their music can now start making a small income of their > music, through new systems like paypal.
And every other month I can post a story about how my parents got sick or the taxman made me eat it or my car broke down and beg for extra cash from my loving listeners. I SUCK YO DICK FO A QUARTER! Dignity is a privilege of the CAPITALIST PIG. People have more to choose from? My local mall record store still has better selection than most P2P services, and with Amazon + AB-CD + FE I have P2P beaten hands down.
quoted 3 lines 5a. Systems like paypay also cut out the middle man, allowing the artist> 5a. Systems like paypay also cut out the middle man, allowing the artist > to see more of the money thereby lowering the cost of music for the > consumer.
How does the cost get any lower than 'Free?' Does PayPal help cover the cost of production? Can I make you pay me without begging? Does the musician get anything besides a nice warm fuzzy at the end of the day after going through all this to let you hear their music free of charge?
quoted 3 lines I think that is all I have to say...Oh yeah one more thing. Music is the> I think that is all I have to say...Oh yeah one more thing. Music is the > one of the only mediums you are expected to buy without sampling to see if > you like it first.
NEWS FLASH - RADIO BROADCASTS MUSIC TO LISTENERS Top 40, Urban, Jazz, AC and 'College' formats planned MTV, VH1, BET, etc: "This is just like what we do, without pictures!" CD STORES PLAN 'LISTENING STATIONS' Used CDs, featured New Releases and now ANYTHING WITH A BARCODE available for 'previewing' - NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE Enough of this. I hope DJ Shadow gets a laugh. (roachgod69? HA HA HAA HA HA) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org