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EggyToast
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Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:03:04 -0500
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Re: [idm] the end of all music?
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quoted 22 lines On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 03:31 PM, EggyToast wrote:>On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 03:31 PM, EggyToast wrote: > >>> >>> will anyone ever write an infinitely long piece? >>> >>> no. >>> >>> anyone wanna argue that? >> >> Sure, why not. We're already to the point where people are >>writing music using mathematics. Classically speaking, there was >>Iannis Xenakis, and in modern times there are numerous >>"algorithmically based" tracks out there. What's to stop someone >>from creating a song based on irrational numbers, such as pi, and >>saying 'this can be performed forever." > >argh, algorithmic programming just screwed everything i said up. >you can figure out an infinite string of numbers without repetition >via algorithm, i think. >i dont think you can prove it though, which would make it a >theoretically infinite string of numbers? blah. the whole concept >of infinity sucks, we should do away with it.
I'm sure physicists and mathematicians would give you the nobel prize for math and physics for a few years straight if you could figure out a way to get rid of infinity :)
quoted 7 lines or are you saying that no one will ever record or perform such a> >> or are you saying that no one will ever record or perform such a >>piece? Cos the writing is the easy part! > >is it? give me the algorithm for figuring out any set integer in pi >without using google. >like, i want to know the 1,423,294th number of pi.
I'm not saying *I* could do it, nor that it's easy to set up to solve specific problems. Just that it's easy to write something that could go on forever without repeating. I mean, you could do it as easy as "here's a 16 note sequence played on every quarter note. After you've played the 16th note, start over at the 2nd note. That is the new first note. The new 16th note is determined by the current second divided by 5" (5 because 60/5=12, 12 note scale etc.). So even slight repetition with random elements added would create an entirely new sequence that could conceivably be played "until the end of time" :D derek -- eggytoast.com -------------- commerce soon: eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org