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Thomas Millar ,
Date:
Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:48:03 -0600
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Re: [idm] Music
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Very nice topic. I am completely fascinated by what music is capable of as far as manipulating the mind and its' psychological effects. My particular goal as a musician is to tap into the feelings that don't have a name. To make your mind think of pictures and emotions that you cant describe. Achieving this is the hardest thing I've ever set out to do, and I'm far from the results I'd like. In my opinion, the subconcious is well stronger than most people give credit, and playing with it/manipulating it is really interesting to me. The music I most enjoy is something that I can associate with a great/terrible feeling, but not the typical "happy," "sad," "angry" sense. I'm more interested in music that pursues a different avenue. One obvious example would be the enourmous effect boards of canada have on some listeners. Most people struggle in describing what they feel when they listen to it, but they all agree that there's something there. I get this same feeling from music by wendy carlos, or robert emenegger. Some old david axelrod work, mahavishnu orchestra, stevie wonder... the list is endless. There's a lot more to music than generitive magical equation plugins and programming the most complex magical idm beats ever made. It has its' place in my book, but it lacks the power that the said artists have. The reason IDM lacks so much in my book is that people overlook this. IDM has sort of dumbed down over the years I think. Many artists fail to pursue anything or have a concept. Just making neat tracks. It's much more interesting to me to research synesthesia or things like brainwave synchronization. There's a lot you can do to manipulate listeners, and the tools to do so are endless these days. So to answer your question, sorry about all that nonsense, the images in my head when i'm making my own music are usually of memories i've had or places i've been. if not, they're usually just shapes and colors. usually the same with other people's music as well. it taps into the subconcious, and usually the pictures are reality based, but often places i've never been and people i've never met. time to go nerd out on music psychology, jonathan canupp ten and tracer www.tenandtracer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Millar" <tmillar@comcast.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: [idm] Music
quoted 2 lines As opposed to my normal reactive stance, I am proposing a new topic of> As opposed to my normal reactive stance, I am proposing a new topic of > discussion, related to my recent less IDM- more rock/pop listening
habits...
quoted 2 lines As a listener (or composer) what does the music you most enjoy represent> > As a listener (or composer) what does the music you most enjoy represent
to
quoted 2 lines you? I'm talking about the pictures in your head. Are they pictures> you? I'm talking about the pictures in your head. Are they pictures > approximating reality most of the time, or are they pictures of living on
a
quoted 17 lines space colony and piloting giant japanese robots (f'rinstance)?> space colony and piloting giant japanese robots (f'rinstance)? > > And how do these pictures relate to one another, as in listening to your > favorite music at work - does work get better or worse once you take your > headphones off? > > etc. > > bedtime > > Tom > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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