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Jason Stickel
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Date:
Wed, 29 May 2002 16:02:43 -0400
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Re: [idm] lowercase
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Some of the stuff I have heard on recent comps. and elsewhere is beyond minimal though. What I am referring to is the thought that barely decipherable noise can be interpreted as composition. It's like recording white noise for an hour and calling it a track. Old Plastikman stuff, for example, has texture and the space between bursts of sound are then given meaning to some extent, but some (not all) of what is being passed off as music these days is ridiculous. If I can't tell the difference between someone who can fiddle around on their new MAC for fifteen minutes and someone who has been recording the same stuff for 10 years then it ceases to maintain any artistic merit or clarity - at least for me. I'd like to hear what Brian Eno has to say about all this mess... JS
quoted 113 lines From: wownflutter <wownflutter@yahoo.com>>From: wownflutter <wownflutter@yahoo.com> >To: Jason Stickel <j_stickel_otfp@hotmail.com>, vletrmx@hotmail.com, >idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] lowercase >Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:45:44 -0700 (PDT) > >I would call lowercase sound "Experimental" >That is what it records. > >Recently I delved into lowercase to experience the >hype. >A great deal of it (Bernhard Gunter) is so minimal >that it has no impact on me. > >But, there is another part of lowercase which is more >"the space between the notes" kind of thinking. >A great deal of effort has gone into its production >and you can hear it. > >But, it is definitely a hard sell to most. > >I think lowercase, as a grownn-up, is "drone". >Drone music has much more tooth. >(Tom Koner, Noisegate, Ora and the famous Gas) > >Cheers > > >--- Jason Stickel <j_stickel_otfp@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Not again... > > > > Now I am as open-minded as the next guy when it > > comes to textured, > > experimental electronic music, ambient, IDM, micro- > > whatever-the-hell- > > you-wanna-call-it, but there comes a point in time > > when enough is enough. I > > didn't have the pleasure of hearing WIRED's sound > > bites, but I am familiar > > enough with the "genre" to know when noise is just > > noise. It kind of > > reminds me of going to an art gallery and seeing a > > canvas painted entirely > > red...nothing else, just red paint. Ridiculous. > > > > Chalk it up to a lack of understanding on my part if > > you will, but I cease > > to see the novelty or artistic merit in such things. > > > > JS > > > > > > >From: "M Mercer" <vletrmx@hotmail.com> > > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > > >Subject: Re: [idm] lowercase > > >Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:09:08 -0400 > > > > > > > > >>>It's bad enough the Wire making up sub-sub-genres > > but Wired as well. > > >>>Jeesh. Italic sound anyone? > > > > > >There is an Italic Records, actually. Decidedly not > > lowercase/microsound. > > >May digital disco save the day! :-) > > > > > >>>>Article in Wired on "lowercase sound". > > >>>> > > >>>>"'Lowercase sound' is the name given to a loose > > movement in electronic > > >>>>music that emphasizes very quiet sounds and the > > long, empty silences > > >>>>between them." > > >>>> > > > >>>>http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,52397,00.html > > >>>> > > >>>>The only name I recognized from the article was > > Taylor Dupree. Hmm. > > > > > >There's inevitably a big debate every few weeks > > about "lowercase" vs. > > >"microsound" vs. "microscopic" etc on the > > microsound list, also hosted > > >through hyperreal. In fact many of those names > > appearing in the Wired > > >article are frequent (some infrequent) > > list-posters. Taylor Deupree, > > >Stephan > > >Mathieu, Steve Roden, Akira Rabelais, Bernhard > > Guenter..... these are all > > >fairly well known figures within the genre. All of > > them produce work that's > > >worth looking into if the > > genre/movement/whateveryouwanttocallit interests > > >you. > > > > > >The Wired article only skims the sound/genre, > > although I personally think > > >it's good to see a more mainstream publication > > (i.e., not The Wire) > > >devoting > > >some space to what is still a fairly niche and/or > > relatively obscure sound. > > > > > > > > >-matt > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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