it seems like alot of people are really into the rawk! like, idm artists need
to rock out and drink lots of booze, and engage in fraternity hijinks and
pump chicks and what have you
I think we all know the next step
PAINTED FACES
MASKS
PROSTHETIC HORNS
and live shows ala SLIPKNOT!!!!
as for me, I'm in the group who isn't all about having music force fed down
my throat by some drunk jock who happens to play idm now and feels that his
punk influences are somehow superior to the lap top show. f_ck that, I took
enough of that in high school and if I want it now I can go to any bar or
club in any town in america.
idm must not go nu-metal
not directed at you dave, just it seems a large segment of the list would do
away with the 'i' and the 'd' and replace them with some other abbreviation.
I mean really, if you want rock why don't you go to a fucking rock show then??
poised with finger over the delete button, giddy at the prospect of being
flamed into last tuesday,
g.
On Friday 19 April 2002 12:08 pm, Jc105776@aol.com wrote:
quoted 57 lines There's only a few electronic artists that can pull it off live. I really> There's only a few electronic artists that can pull it off live. I really
> enjoyed Aphex Twin's live shows back in the day. Really raw and really
> live. Even when he started using laptops live (and he was the first), it
> was new, and he added some dancing bears, female bodybuilders, and midgets
> to the mix.
>
>
> I also was in London for the WARP rave last fall, and that was actually a
> mind blowing experience. The Brits really get into their music, and people
> were all dancing and screaming and it created a huge amount of positive
> energy. Seeing Plaid/Anti-Pop Consortium/AFX live in London and comparing
> the same experience in the states is totally different. The crowd just
> dances like they just don't care...and are totally in their music. It's
> incredibly infecting, and you feel like doing something...even if it isn't
> dancing. People in the states seem like they're bored elitist music geeks
> and just sit around...
>
> Almost every "IDM" show back here in the states has been lame for a while
> now. A few hednodders and everyone staring at the dude with a laptop
> (who's ripping off autechre or aphex anyways). I thought I really got
> jipped when I saw AE live last spring. I had heard of their huge amount of
> samplers, analog synths, and modified gear they'd bring live, and had
> waited to see them for 6 years. All they had was a couple of G4 laptops...
> REALLY unimpressive. I was just recently dragged out to see Hrvratski
> live, and must say that it was just like any of the other shows I've seen
> for the last 2-3 years.
>
> Another problem is that all this music is sounding the same. Almost every
> guy either has to either use this deliberite DSP fuckery to sound like
> Autechre, or some cheesy video-gamey melodies or samples to be funny(a la
> RDJ Album). I hope some people really end this era of laptop boringness,
> or electronic music will be heading nowhere fast.
>
> All I can say is that back in the day, electronic music was cool live.
> Kraftwerk had a real intense live show. Ministry knew how to kick major
> ass. Nine Inch Nails put on quite an incredible show (I'd rather see him
> express something while playing to DATS than fucking geek out on laptops).
> Depeche Mode and Meat Beat Manifesto brought modular gear and operated on
> analog seequencers live! Skinny Puppy had huge epic live dramas. The Last
> Rights show was simply incredible... Nivek Ogre pulled off objects from a
> huge revolving tree, while we could view his experiences in the cyberhelmet
> on screen... I could go on and on about how this was better live... Now
> some kids want to tell me that these laptop shows are cool?
>
> Maybe I'm a bit old school, but I think these laptop shows are degrading.
> I write electronic music on a laptop since I'm a travelling college
> student, but the last thing I'll do is play out on it. I'd think the only
> way I'd play live is by taking a toilet to the middle of the stage while
> wearing some geeky glasses and taking a huge shit while operating some
> software on my laptop.
>
> -David
>
>
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