on 3/13/02 11:39 PM, Andrei at andrei@world.std.com scrawled:
quoted 10 lines Don't get me wrong I think The Beatles and Run DMC are great, but simply> Don't get me wrong I think The Beatles and Run DMC are great, but simply
> musically speaking what advances did they make ?
> The Beatles were geniuses, but they didn't revolutionize the concepts of
> harmony or melody. And spoken word, sampling and the use of drum machines
> were around a long time before Run DMC. I think these people made more of
> a social impact which is what pop music is good at, imo.
> I think Hendrix is one of the only pop musicians I can think of who
> clearly brought something new to the table in a general sense (an approach
> to playing the guitar which changed things henceforth).
>
You are on point. I was just trying to poke holes in your hardline
statement. I notice you didn't say anything about the marss record though,
which of course was a seminal 80's track and for all intensive purposes
introduced a *lot* of people to sampling. Granted pop music that signals
the beginning of a new era may be more about time and place, or the artists
charisma then musical talent but breakthrough artists do deserve some
credit.
quoted 7 lines I think the most important thing progers failed to understand is that what> I think the most important thing progers failed to understand is that what
> pop music is great at is dealing with social mores, not musical issues. If
> you look at all the seminal figures in pop music history (Elvis, Bob
> Dylan, The Beatles, Sex Pistols, etc.) you'll see that their impact has
> more to do with socio-political issues than with some sort of
> revolutionary musical statement.
>
Correct, what else would you expect from a society that likes easy to digest
narrative so much? Still though, think about the discussion on this list..
lots of artists get hyped because of the software they are using isn't that
social? DItto for (non John Oswald) illicit remixes. Who gives a fuck what
you can do to <insert hated pop artist here>'s radio hits? That is about as
old as taking a coporate logo/slogan and being all clever like and
subverting it into something oh so opposite of what it originally was.
~g
(fishing not trolling)
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