Agreed.
On 19:05, Thu, 24 May 2018 Chris Bellevie, <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 207 lines This, 100%.> This, 100%.
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> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i wouldn't hold aphex or someone to any kind of political standard, but
>> martin and richard made it clear many times that the black dog is a
>> political animal now, with the titles of their albums and tracks, their
>> blog and twitter posts, etc
>> if you have a homophobic third member, you need to be open about that
>>
>>
>> Clint Anderson
>> Systems Engineer
>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Ed Tyler <hekula@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> :-( Double mega fail! Thanks for the update, disappointing stuff there.
>>>
>>> On 18:13, Thu, 24 May 2018 Chris Bellevie, <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just listened through all of Black Daisy Wheel stream on Bandcamp and
>>>> really like it quite a bit. It's really hard to separate the music from
>>>> comments like that :(
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well as long as I stirred the shit I might as well follow through with
>>>>> the shit show.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From one user:
>>>>> im getting oddness too, think someone may have deleted something?? but
>>>>> just to stop conspiricy stories, i happen to still have it in another tab.
>>>>>
>>>>> it was me, it was real,
>>>>>
>>>>> I cant tell you if its still there, because he blocked me,
>>>>> but go back to the 17 or 18/12/2017 and see if its still there.
>>>>> his exact comment was along the line of "Gay men are cancer for kids"
>>>>> i think, if i recall, it was all based on a case of an adopted child
>>>>> being killed by the adopted parent ?
>>>>>
>>>>> which descended into a new world order, trump love-in with a huge "all
>>>>> gay men are paedophiles and murder kids" twist.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a gay guy, i was quite open in arguing with him, he lost it, posted
>>>>> a load of stuff on my personal page (we were FB friends), then deleted it
>>>>> all and blocked me.
>>>>>
>>>>> i shoudl add, i wasnt intending to shit stir either, its water under
>>>>> the bridge, it was a comment on a FB friends post, which happened to be in
>>>>> this group, about the new BlackDog album, which i made the comment on, in
>>>>> passing.
>>>>>
>>>>> its not like ive got some axe to grind as such
>>>>>
>>>>> But, re:above, yes i can seperate artist from art,but when said artist
>>>>> has attacked you personally online, and it becomes personal, that does tend
>>>>> to colour your view. its not an abstract concept.
>>>>>
>>>>> I -am - a huge fan of the early black dog stuff, I bought it all ,
>>>>> BYTES was my go to album for a good while, i loved that stuff, I still do,
>>>>> nothings changed there
>>>>> ---
>>>>> he deleted the lot.
>>>>> it certainly isn't me that's posting it to the IDM list, but at the
>>>>> same time, i'm not going to deny it happend, because it did
>>>>>
>>>>> i dont have grabs etc because he deleted the personal stuff he posted
>>>>> on my page (i woke up to a wodge of notifications of page posts) and
>>>>> blocked me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do have the message i sent, to someone who knows him, who i dont
>>>>> want to involve in this, asking if they wanted to check on Ken, make sure
>>>>> he was ok, was this out of character etc,
>>>>> but i'm not about to share that and drag someone into year and a bit
>>>>> old drama!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> anyways unless someone hears more about this ,please assume it's
>>>>>> totally bullshit and false and my apologies for bringing it up in the first
>>>>>> place
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently it was on his Facebook profile, if anyone has him on
>>>>>>> their friends list then maybe it's still there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 May 2018 18:08, "Chris Bellevie" <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would freak me out too, just would never, ever expect that,
>>>>>>>> although I guess that it's not anything I have ever actually seen him
>>>>>>>> comment on at all in anyway. But BD is something personally really invested
>>>>>>>> in (I actually still had and just handed down to my son the BD live
>>>>>>>> cassette Ken sent me years ago that I dubbed for free for anyone on the
>>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once again I'm kicking myself for not screenshotting it, someone
>>>>>>>>> had posted a message about getting the two new black dog albums today in
>>>>>>>>> World's Greatest Electronic Music Albums group iirc
>>>>>>>>> and on it a guy was saying "oh gee, i don't know, ken downie
>>>>>>>>> recently went off on a huge rant on facebook about homosexual men being
>>>>>>>>> pedophiles and a bunch of his pals jumped on the band wagon"
>>>>>>>>> now of course that FB post is deleted, there's nothing on the
>>>>>>>>> Black Dog group, and i'm not a facebook friend with Ken Downie
>>>>>>>>> i just sort of freaked out when i saw that because maybe i'm a
>>>>>>>>> little too personally invested in the black dog and it would really break
>>>>>>>>> my heart so, i just wanted to hear right away that it's all bullshit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Chris Bellevie <
>>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where did you hear this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And to unintentionally sidetrack this, I'm curious, have the band
>>>>>>>>>> ever commented on the level of input each has member has? Do they all work
>>>>>>>>>> jointly, or is it more in the vein of BD of days gone by where individual's
>>>>>>>>>> tracks were included?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if someone is trying to spread untrue rumors about ken to tank
>>>>>>>>>>> their album sales or something that's just messed up
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clint Anderson <
>>>>>>>>>>> clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i dunno i can't believe it
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be totally counter to everything he's said in the past
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Chris Bellevie <
>>>>>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Say it ain't so!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Ed Tyler <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hekula@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but if true this will literally break my heart :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17:31, Tue, 22 May 2018 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i apparently missed this but there's a rumour going about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that mr ken downie of the black dog fame recently went on a homophobic rant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equating homosexuals to pedophiles, anyone have any more information on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if true i feel like this needs to get discussed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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