Pretty sure this post will stop piracy forever
On Oct 20, 2014 5:29 PM, "Alan Lucas" <alucas@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 82 lines Seriously, Connor? Is our potential fan that much of a moron? Where does> Seriously, Connor? Is our potential fan that much of a moron? Where does
> our potential fan buy his/her music? Bleep? You can listen to the entire
> album there. Bandcamp? You can listen to entire albums there, AND they
> don't even autopause you after a minute. Pretty much any other website on
> the internet that sells music? You can listen to clips of every track on
> the album there.
>
> Let me see if I have this straight:
>
> * Our potential fan is interested in Artist X.
> * Artist X does not have any samples of their work anywhere on the
> internet.
> * Artist X's works are only sold in a brick and mortar store that's on the
> other side of the world from our potential fan.
> * Our potential fan has no choice but to steal Artist X's work because
> somehow it got leaked to an illegal piracy site but exists NOWHERE ELSE ON
> THE INTERNET where our potential fan might be able to hear it.
>
> A few other things we need to understand about our potential fan:
>
> * Our potential fan can't make informed decisions about a potential
> purchase without having an artist's entire discography on his hard drive.
> * Our potential fan reads reviews of albums but still has to have an
> artist's entire discography on his hard drive before making decisions
> regarding purchase.
>
> It almost sounds like you're trying to tell me that before YouTube,
> Spotify, and tracker sites, no one actually bought any albums because you
> couldn't necessarily have an entire artist's catalog on your hard drive (oh
> wait, those used to not exist, either!). I know this is not the case,
> because I bought plenty of music before the birth of the internet and
> before I had a computer. There were times when I would go into a record
> store, hear something playing on the overhead, and buy the entire album by
> that artist just because I was so excited about the track I had just heard.
> CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE?!?!?
>
> I stil buy lots of music. Lots of it without having heard it at all.
> Something new by Mika Vainio? Hell yes, I'm going to buy that. The new
> Aphex? I felt bad about listening to minipops before it was release because
> I DIDN'T want to hear it before it came out.
>
> Anyway, I think what you're really trying to say, or convince people of,
> is that it's okay to steal. Some people are going to agree with you. Other
> people aren't. A lot of people have grown up with the notion that stealing
> is a crime, and a lot of people don't like having things stolen from them.
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why should I even bother having this conversation when folks like Jared
>>> come in and smash the metaphorical house of cards we've already
>>> established. Yes, Jared: Piracy is a criminal act. What I'm asking is if
>>> piracy is currently aiding the promotion of new and upcoming artists.
>>>
>>> Someone above argued that youtube and spotify should be used instead of
>>> trackers, but I think everyone is aware of the limited scope that these
>>> services can provide. For one, they can barely attest to being better than
>>> pirating, as artists tend to receive little to no compensation per view.
>>> Furthermore, these services tend to omit certain groups, or only feature a
>>> specific subset of an artist's work. Consider someone that's just stumbled
>>> upon Autechre, but youtube or spotify only features Quaristice (Just a
>>> hypothetical). Most fans would agree there are better starting points in
>>> their discography, and having only found this one currently inaccessible
>>> album, our potential fan has written the duo off for good.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, if our potential fan uses a private tracker of sorts,
>>> he or she will find the duo's entire discography at their fingertips.
>>> Having read the reviews posted of albums, he or she can make an informed
>>> first-listening decision, which can potentially galvanize a long-term
>>> fandom, and therefore a monetary investment, be it through concert tickets
>>> or actually paying for the albums. The point is, a great deal of this
>>> process stops because of how incomprehensive youtube and spotify are as
>>> sources for musical exploration. And for the measly benefit of earning the
>>> artist fractions of a penny.
>>>
>>> /rant
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