piracy is theft. or else, instead of calling it piracy, it'd be called
"happy free giveaways from people who work their ass off on their art".
yes, it is that black and white.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 197 lines heh, not gonna say anything other than that google will provide you with
> heh, not gonna say anything other than that google will provide you with
> more music sharing 0dayz sites than you will ever be able to shake any
> number of sticks at
>
> personally i enjoy buying records and listening to clicks and pops too
> much to pirate everything but i do really insist on at least streaming the
> entire release before i drop what is sometimes as much as $40 on a release
> (SYRO was $32.99!)
>
> im not pro-file-sharing sites i just think its ridiculous that there is a
> interview process and invites for something that literally couldn't be
> easier to find or even trip over its so common
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Juho: Do you have a good rebuttal to the "ends justifying the means"
>> argument concerning piracy and its potential benefits? I'm all ears. Let's
>> just stay away from blatant misrepresentations of each other's views.
>>
>> Tris: I'd send you one if I had an invite to give, but unfortunately I
>> don't. Trackers tend to be rather conservative when handing those out. The
>> other method is to take the IRC interview and test, which is how I ended up
>> joining. It's a little tedious (~3 hours or so) but it isn't too difficult
>> in terms of content. Just know the basic file formats and the like. There's
>> a number of resources online if you're interested enough.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Tristan Strange <
>> tristan.strange@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't know if this is the place to ask but.....
>>>
>>> Is any one capable of inviting me to these services?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tris
>>>
>>> On 20 October 2014 17:15, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i like to make generalised sweeping statements about an entire industry
>>>> based on my habits too
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:56, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I AM GROOT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 October 2014 16:55, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> just follow him on facebook. you'll soon get to realise what he thinks
>>>>> of the music industry and the middleman. Don't get me wrong here, piracy is
>>>>> bad, my point is that waffles/what.cd caused my music purchasing to
>>>>> rise, not fall. but then that's just me... do you think that sites have
>>>>> cause a drop in sales? do you think that the people pirating would purchase
>>>>> if piracy wasn't an option? i think a small percentage would but the others
>>>>> would just find some other way of getting music for free..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 October 2014 14:39, Esa J. Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can You direct us to an interview with A Guy Called Gerald?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:33, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > to be fair, spotify and youtube weren't around when i joined OiNK.
>>>>>> > it's only recently that these services have taken off. I hardly use
>>>>>> > torrents any more, i've purchased all my needs from the past now
>>>>>> and i
>>>>>> > continue to buy new stuff on bandcamp etc. It was the music industry
>>>>>> > that failed to respond to the internet, so don't blame OiNKers for
>>>>>> > creating something to force their hand. Rules are simple, if you
>>>>>> > download, then purchase from the artist directly. Paying the major
>>>>>> > companies for anything is even worse. the artist gets virtually none
>>>>>> > of that. Go speak to A Guy Called Gerald and ask him what he thinks
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> > the music industry :)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On 20/10/2014, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> internet music wankers (tm)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "but i wouldnt discover things if i didnt copy them at first" is
>>>>>> the most
>>>>>> >> 80s argument i know of. hey we have things like youtube and
>>>>>> spotify in the
>>>>>> >> 2000s, hope you'll join us here, connor..
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 09:13, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> im bad with ratios and whatnots so i would just go there to find
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>> >>> on my own releases.
>>>>>> >>> that's what i used what.cd for, i think.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 13 October 2014 08:24, Connor Higgins <
>>>>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Still ethically shaky regardless of accepting that it as such.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> it's only a quagmire if you don't want to accept piracy is
>>>>>> disrespectful.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 10/13/2014 3:22 PM, Connor Higgins wrote:
>>>>>> >>> If it's anything like what.cd <http://what.cd>, just make sure
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> >>> picky in your selections and seed generously. No need to fill
>>>>>> requests
>>>>>> >>> or upload unless you're going overboard with your "purchases".
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> If this ends up turning into one of those rehashed discussions on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> merits and moral qualms associated with pirating music, then here
>>>>>> are my
>>>>>> >>> two cents: I wouldn't know 2/3's of the artists I currently
>>>>>> support
>>>>>> >>> monetarily if I hadn't nicked some of their work illegally. Do
>>>>>> the ends
>>>>>> >>> justify the means? How should I know? Let the ethicists in their
>>>>>> ivory
>>>>>> >>> towers navigate that quagmire. I just listen to music.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Sam Loschl <
>>>>>> watercat1996@gmail.com
>>>>>> >>> <mailto:watercat1996@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> anybody on waffles? just got an invite, looking for friends or
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> >>> advice you'd have for a novice. first private tracker i've had
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> opportunity to join
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> sam`
>>>>>> >>> 808cat
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> Sham Beam
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > _____________________________________________
>>>>>> > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
>>>>>> > _____________________________________________
>>>>>> > noise I make:
>>>>>> > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin
>>>>>> > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > noise I like:
>>>>>> > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > sites I run:
>>>>>> > http://www.ctran.co.uk
>>>>>> > http://o-fu-online.net
>>>>>> > -------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>> noise I make:
>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin
>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin
>>>>>
>>>>> noise I like:
>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly
>>>>>
>>>>> sites I run:
>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk
>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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