Haha, yeah. What and waffles both are way too elitist for their own good.
That being said, private trackers have the upside of being meticulously
catalogue/well seeded.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 197 lines heh, not gonna say anything other than that google will provide you with
> heh, not gonna say anything other than that google will provide you with
> more music sharing 0dayz sites than you will ever be able to shake any
> number of sticks at
>
> personally i enjoy buying records and listening to clicks and pops too
> much to pirate everything but i do really insist on at least streaming the
> entire release before i drop what is sometimes as much as $40 on a release
> (SYRO was $32.99!)
>
> im not pro-file-sharing sites i just think its ridiculous that there is a
> interview process and invites for something that literally couldn't be
> easier to find or even trip over its so common
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Juho: Do you have a good rebuttal to the "ends justifying the means"
>> argument concerning piracy and its potential benefits? I'm all ears. Let's
>> just stay away from blatant misrepresentations of each other's views.
>>
>> Tris: I'd send you one if I had an invite to give, but unfortunately I
>> don't. Trackers tend to be rather conservative when handing those out. The
>> other method is to take the IRC interview and test, which is how I ended up
>> joining. It's a little tedious (~3 hours or so) but it isn't too difficult
>> in terms of content. Just know the basic file formats and the like. There's
>> a number of resources online if you're interested enough.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Tristan Strange <
>> tristan.strange@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't know if this is the place to ask but.....
>>>
>>> Is any one capable of inviting me to these services?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tris
>>>
>>> On 20 October 2014 17:15, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i like to make generalised sweeping statements about an entire industry
>>>> based on my habits too
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:56, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I AM GROOT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 October 2014 16:55, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> just follow him on facebook. you'll soon get to realise what he thinks
>>>>> of the music industry and the middleman. Don't get me wrong here, piracy is
>>>>> bad, my point is that waffles/what.cd caused my music purchasing to
>>>>> rise, not fall. but then that's just me... do you think that sites have
>>>>> cause a drop in sales? do you think that the people pirating would purchase
>>>>> if piracy wasn't an option? i think a small percentage would but the others
>>>>> would just find some other way of getting music for free..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 October 2014 14:39, Esa J. Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can You direct us to an interview with A Guy Called Gerald?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:33, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > to be fair, spotify and youtube weren't around when i joined OiNK.
>>>>>> > it's only recently that these services have taken off. I hardly use
>>>>>> > torrents any more, i've purchased all my needs from the past now
>>>>>> and i
>>>>>> > continue to buy new stuff on bandcamp etc. It was the music industry
>>>>>> > that failed to respond to the internet, so don't blame OiNKers for
>>>>>> > creating something to force their hand. Rules are simple, if you
>>>>>> > download, then purchase from the artist directly. Paying the major
>>>>>> > companies for anything is even worse. the artist gets virtually none
>>>>>> > of that. Go speak to A Guy Called Gerald and ask him what he thinks
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> > the music industry :)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On 20/10/2014, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> internet music wankers (tm)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> “but i wouldnt discover things if i didnt copy them at first” is
>>>>>> the most
>>>>>> >> 80s argument i know of. hey we have things like youtube and
>>>>>> spotify in the
>>>>>> >> 2000s, hope you’ll join us here, connor..
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 09:13, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> im bad with ratios and whatnots so i would just go there to find
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>> >>> on my own releases.
>>>>>> >>> that's what i used what.cd for, i think.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 13 October 2014 08:24, Connor Higgins <
>>>>>> connor1higgins@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Still ethically shaky regardless of accepting that it as such.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> it's only a quagmire if you don't want to accept piracy is
>>>>>> disrespectful.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 10/13/2014 3:22 PM, Connor Higgins wrote:
>>>>>> >>> If it's anything like what.cd <http://what.cd>, just make sure
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> >>> picky in your selections and seed generously. No need to fill
>>>>>> requests
>>>>>> >>> or upload unless you're going overboard with your "purchases".
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> If this ends up turning into one of those rehashed discussions on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> merits and moral qualms associated with pirating music, then here
>>>>>> are my
>>>>>> >>> two cents: I wouldn't know 2/3's of the artists I currently
>>>>>> support
>>>>>> >>> monetarily if I hadn't nicked some of their work illegally. Do
>>>>>> the ends
>>>>>> >>> justify the means? How should I know? Let the ethicists in their
>>>>>> ivory
>>>>>> >>> towers navigate that quagmire. I just listen to music.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Sam Loschl <
>>>>>> watercat1996@gmail.com
>>>>>> >>> <mailto:watercat1996@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> anybody on waffles? just got an invite, looking for friends or
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> >>> advice you'd have for a novice. first private tracker i've had
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> opportunity to join
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> sam`
>>>>>> >>> 808cat
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>> >>> Sham Beam
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > _____________________________________________
>>>>>> > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
>>>>>> > _____________________________________________
>>>>>> > noise I make:
>>>>>> > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin
>>>>>> > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > noise I like:
>>>>>> > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > sites I run:
>>>>>> > http://www.ctran.co.uk
>>>>>> > http://o-fu-online.net
>>>>>> > -------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
>>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>>> noise I make:
>>>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin
>>>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin
>>>>>
>>>>> noise I like:
>>>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly
>>>>>
>>>>> sites I run:
>>>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk
>>>>> http://o-fu-online.net
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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