Juho: Do you have a good rebuttal to the "ends justifying the means"
argument concerning piracy and its potential benefits? I'm all ears. Let's
just stay away from blatant misrepresentations of each other's views.
Tris: I'd send you one if I had an invite to give, but unfortunately I
don't. Trackers tend to be rather conservative when handing those out. The
other method is to take the IRC interview and test, which is how I ended up
joining. It's a little tedious (~3 hours or so) but it isn't too difficult
in terms of content. Just know the basic file formats and the like. There's
a number of resources online if you're interested enough.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Tristan Strange <tristan.strange@gmail.com
quoted 1 line wrote:
> wrote:quoted 156 lines Don't know if this is the place to ask but.....
> Don't know if this is the place to ask but.....
>
> Is any one capable of inviting me to these services?
>
> Cheers,
> Tris
>
> On 20 October 2014 17:15, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i like to make generalised sweeping statements about an entire industry
>> based on my habits too
>>
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:56, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I AM GROOT
>>
>>
>> On 20 October 2014 16:55, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> just follow him on facebook. you'll soon get to realise what he thinks
>>> of the music industry and the middleman. Don't get me wrong here, piracy is
>>> bad, my point is that waffles/what.cd caused my music purchasing to
>>> rise, not fall. but then that's just me... do you think that sites have
>>> cause a drop in sales? do you think that the people pirating would purchase
>>> if piracy wasn't an option? i think a small percentage would but the others
>>> would just find some other way of getting music for free..
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 October 2014 14:39, Esa J. Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can You direct us to an interview with A Guy Called Gerald?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.
>>>>
>>>> > On 20 Oct 2014, at 15:33, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > to be fair, spotify and youtube weren't around when i joined OiNK.
>>>> > it's only recently that these services have taken off. I hardly use
>>>> > torrents any more, i've purchased all my needs from the past now and i
>>>> > continue to buy new stuff on bandcamp etc. It was the music industry
>>>> > that failed to respond to the internet, so don't blame OiNKers for
>>>> > creating something to force their hand. Rules are simple, if you
>>>> > download, then purchase from the artist directly. Paying the major
>>>> > companies for anything is even worse. the artist gets virtually none
>>>> > of that. Go speak to A Guy Called Gerald and ask him what he thinks of
>>>> > the music industry :)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 20/10/2014, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> internet music wankers (tm)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> “but i wouldnt discover things if i didnt copy them at first” is the
>>>> most
>>>> >> 80s argument i know of. hey we have things like youtube and spotify
>>>> in the
>>>> >> 2000s, hope you’ll join us here, connor..
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 09:13, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> im bad with ratios and whatnots so i would just go there to find
>>>> comments
>>>> >>> on my own releases.
>>>> >>> that's what i used what.cd for, i think.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 13 October 2014 08:24, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>> Still ethically shaky regardless of accepting that it as such.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> it's only a quagmire if you don't want to accept piracy is
>>>> disrespectful.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 10/13/2014 3:22 PM, Connor Higgins wrote:
>>>> >>> If it's anything like what.cd <http://what.cd>, just make sure to
>>>> be
>>>> >>> picky in your selections and seed generously. No need to fill
>>>> requests
>>>> >>> or upload unless you're going overboard with your "purchases".
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If this ends up turning into one of those rehashed discussions on
>>>> the
>>>> >>> merits and moral qualms associated with pirating music, then here
>>>> are my
>>>> >>> two cents: I wouldn't know 2/3's of the artists I currently support
>>>> >>> monetarily if I hadn't nicked some of their work illegally. Do the
>>>> ends
>>>> >>> justify the means? How should I know? Let the ethicists in their
>>>> ivory
>>>> >>> towers navigate that quagmire. I just listen to music.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Sam Loschl <watercat1996@gmail.com
>>>> >>> <mailto:watercat1996@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> anybody on waffles? just got an invite, looking for friends or
>>>> any
>>>> >>> advice you'd have for a novice. first private tracker i've had
>>>> the
>>>> >>> opportunity to join
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> sam`
>>>> >>> 808cat
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> Sham Beam
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > _____________________________________________
>>>> > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
>>>> > _____________________________________________
>>>> > noise I make:
>>>> > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin
>>>> > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin
>>>> >
>>>> > noise I like:
>>>> > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly
>>>> >
>>>> > sites I run:
>>>> > http://www.ctran.co.uk
>>>> > http://o-fu-online.net
>>>> > -------------------------------
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> _____________________________________________
>>> Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
>>> _____________________________________________
>>> noise I make:
>>> http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin
>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin
>>>
>>> noise I like:
>>> http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly
>>>
>>> sites I run:
>>> http://www.ctran.co.uk
>>> http://o-fu-online.net
>>> -------------------------------
>>>
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